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Article #6339Re: REVOLUTION IN SCIENCE: KUHN'S MISTAKE
From: Juan R. González-Álvarez
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:12
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:12
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Pentcho Valev wrote on Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:34:19 -0700: Troll > It seems revolution in science in Kuhnian sense occurs only when a > consistent but dull theory is replaced by an inconsistent but exciting > one. Since Newton's emission theory of light had explained everything > within its scope in 18th century, at the end of 19th century it seemed > so archaic and dull that scientists did not even consider it when they > were trying to interpret the Michelson-Morley experiment (although in > 1887 the emission theory was the only one able to explain the result of > the experiment). In other words, a pre-revolutionary situation in > science is characterized by unbearable boredom, not by an unbearably > large set of anomalies as Kuhn teaches. Initially the inconsistency > (e.g. Einstein's relativity) cures the boredom but eventually comes to a > dead end and science simply dies. Then even epitaph-like texts are > unable to provoke any discussion, let alone development: > > http://www.nyas.org/publications/UpdateUnbound.asp?UpdateID=41 Lee > Smolin: "Then, about 30 years ago, something changed. The last time > there was a definitive advance in our knowledge of fundamental physics > was the construction ofthe theory we call the standard model of particle > physics in 1973. The last time a fundamental theory was proposed that > has since gotten any support from experiment was a theory about the very > early universe called inflation, which was proposed in 1981....A growing > number of theoretical physicists, myself among them, see the present > situation as a crisis that requires us to reexamine the assumptions > behind our so-far unsuccessful theories. I should emphasize that this > crisis involves only fundamental physics that part of physics concerned > with discovering the laws of nature." > > http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00000313/ Jos Uffink: "This > summary leads to the question whether it is fruitful to see > irreversibility or time-asymmetry as the essence of the second law. Is > it not more straightforward, in view of the unargued statements of > Kelvin, the bold claims of Clausius and the strained attempts of Planck, > to give up this idea? I believe that Ehrenfest- Afanassjewa was right in > her verdict that the discussion about the arrow of time as expressed in > the second law of the thermodynamics is actually a RED HERRING." > > http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/hutchison/080616 "Like bronze idols > that are hollow inside, Einstein built a cluster of "Potemkin villages," > which are false fronts with nothing behind them. Grigori Potemkin > (17391791) was a general-field marshal, Russian statesman, and favorite > of Empress Catherine the Great. He is alleged to have built facades of > non-existent villages along desolate stretches of the Dnieper River to > impress Catherine as she sailed to the Crimea in 1787. Actors posing as > happy peasants stood in front of these pretty stage sets and waved to > the pleased Empress." > > http://allais.maurice.free.fr/Paradoxe.htm Maurice Allais: "De là a > résulté une incroyable situation sans aucun précédent dans toute > l'histoire : la domination dogmatique et intolérante pendant un siècle > d'une théorie fausse, la Théorie de la Relativité, résultant elle-même > du plagiat indiscutable d'une incontestable erreur. Les conséquences > néfastes qui en ont résulté pour la science ont été incalculables, > l'orientation totale pendant un siècle de la science dans une voie > erronée, et une régression de la pensée scientifique qui n 'a cessé de > constituer un obstacle insurmontable sur la voie du progrès." > > http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a909857880 The Ideology > of Relativity: The Case of the Clock Paradox Peter Hayes: "The argument > that Einstein fomented an ideological rather than a scientific > revolution helps to explain of one of the features of this revolution > that puzzled Kuhn: despite the apparent scope of the general theory, > very little has come out of it. Viewing relativity theory as an ideology > also helps to account for Poppers doubts over whether special theory can > be retained, given experimental results in quantum mechanics and > Einsteins questionable approach to defining simultaneity. Both Kuhn and > Popper have looked to the other branch of the theory - Popper to the > general and Kuhn to the special - to try and retain their view of > Einstein as a revolutionary scientist. According to the view proposed > here, this only indicates how special and general theories function > together as an ideology, as when one side of the theory is called into > question, the other can be called upon to rescue it. The triumph of > relativity theory represents the triumph of ideology not only in the > profession of physics bur also in the philosophy of science. These > conclusions are of considerable interest to both theoretical physics and > to social epistemology. It would, however, be naïve to think that > theoretical physicists will take the slightest notice of them." > > Pentcho Valev > pvalev@yahoo.com -- http://www.canonicalscience.org/
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