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Article #6350Re: MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT: LIES AND TRUTH
From: doug
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:37
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:37
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Whoever wrote: > "Henry Wilson, DSc" <hw@..> wrote in message > news:v1bv5518gnic5melr2l3s20s27qqshm992@4ax.com... > >> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:12:54 +1000, "Whoever" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> "Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:5b0cf384-aeb7-4698-85f8-a1d15761bbf2@h21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>>> Lies: >>>> >>>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/204892 >>>> "In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won >>>> the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed that the >>>> speed of light is always the same (now known to be 186,282 miles per >>>> second) relative to stationary observers as well as moving ones. >>> >>> >>> That's not a valid summary .. their experiment is consistent with that >>> conclusion, but it did not show that that was the only explanation. >>> What it >>> did rule out was an absolute fixed ether. >>> >>>> Nothing but light has this property: if you are approaching a car >>>> that's moving 30 miles per hour, and you're moving 30mph as well, the >>>> approaching car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. Not so with >>>> light. If you are traveling at the speed of light, designated c, >>>> toward a light beam moving directly toward you, it appears to be >>>> approaching at c, not 2c." >>>> >>>> Truth: >>>> >>>> In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won >>>> the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed (without >>>> knowing it) that the speed of light varies with the speed of the light >>>> source v in accordance with the equation c'=c+v given by Newton's >>>> emission theory of light. >>> >>> >>> That's not a valid summary .. their experiment is consistent with that >>> conclusion, but it did not show that that was the only explanation. >>> What it >>> did rule out was an absolute fixed ether. >>> >>>> If you are approaching a car that's moving >>>> 30 miles per hour, and you're moving 30mph as well, the approaching >>>> car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. So with light. If you are >>>> traveling at the speed of light, designated c where c is the speed of >>>> light relative to the light source, toward a light beam moving >>>> directly toward you, it appears to be approaching at 2c. >>> >>> >>> Shame that that is refuted by Sagnac. >> >> >> Sagnac fully supports BaTh. > > > Stop lying Henry > >> It plainly refutes SR > > > Stop lying Henry Henry (who even lies about his name--it is Ralph) thinks that lying is a way to make your point. He knows nothing of science. > >> because its analysis requires >> that the rays move at c+v and c-v wrt the source. > > > You don't understand the anlaysis .. and you get yours totally wrong That is why he has to lie all the time. > >> If you cannot understand simple diagrams that is not my fault. > > > It is your fault that you don't understand,, because it has been > explained to you countless times > > Stop lying Henry .. and a fraudster deliberately trying to fool people > into believing your theory is correct. Get over it .. you're flogging a > dead horse. Ralph lives in a delusional world where he tells himself he is a scientist instead of the clueless fool he actually is. > >
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