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On Jul 15, 1:45 pm, harry <harald.vanlin...@epfl.ch> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 10:05 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Lies:
>
> >http://www.newsweek.com/id/204892
> > "In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
> > the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed that the
> > speed of light is always the same (now known to be 186,282 miles per
> > second) relative to stationary observers as well as moving ones. [..]
>
> Indeed Newsweek is wrong: M-M did not test for such a hypothesis,
> which hypothesis is ambiguous if not misleading. The speed of light
> according to them as well as according to SRT is independent of that
> of the emitter (wave theory of light); consequently both Michelson and
> Einstein stressed that, as measured in a stationary system, the speed
> of light is c-v relatively to the moving system (nowadays many people
> call that "closing speed").
>
>
>
> > Truth:
>
> > In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
> > the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed (without
> > knowing it) that the speed of light varies with the speed of the light
> > source v in accordance with the equation c'=c+v given by
> > Newton's emission theory of light.
> [..]
>
> > Pentcho Valev
> > pva...@yahoo.com
>
> That is also a lie: their experiment was perfectly compatible with the
> wave theory of light.
>
> Harald

"...physicists before Einstein questioned the idea of absolute motion,
absolute space, and absolute time. Yet it was Einstein who took the
ultimate leap, forging that insight into special relativity."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/204892/page/1

Absolute/relative space is an amazing,if terrible , device by Newton
to bring planetary dynamics within the realm of experimental science
and is a genuine disaster whatever way you look at it however Newton's
absolute/relative time is an idiosyncratic take on the Equation of
Time which references the daily cycle to natural noon,it was perfectly
fine until Flamsteed inverted the references and ultimately led to the
idea of rotation to absolute space/aether and what have you.

"It is indeed a matter of great difficulty to discover, and
effectually to distinguish, the true motion of particular bodies from
the apparent; because the parts of that absolute space, in which those
motions are performed, do by no means come under the observation of
our senses. Yet the thing is not altogether desperate; for we have
some arguments to guide us, partly from the apparent motions, which
are the differences of the true motions; partly from the forces, which
are the causes and effects of the true motion."  Newton, Principia

If I were somebody wishing to discover where Newton is getting his
ideas of absolute/relative space and motion from,I would look at what
is probably the second most important astronomical  graphic after the
Copernican arrangement,in this case,Kepler's Panis Quadragesimalis -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kepler_Mars_retrograde.jpg

Astronomers look at that graphic and see the combined motions of Earth
and Mars,astrologers look at it and see the 'Big Bang' -

"PHÆNOMENON IV.
That the fixed stars being at rest, the periodic times of the five
primary planets, and (whether of the sun about the earth, or) of the
earth about the sun, are in the sesquiplicate proportion of their mean
distances from the sun.
This proportion, first observed by Kepler, is now received by all
astronomers; for the periodic times are the same, and the dimensions
of the orbits are the same, whether the sun revolves about the earth,
or the earth about the sun." Newton

http://gravitee.tripod.com/phaenomena.htm

What can I say,Newton's elaborate scheme by exploiting Ra/Dec
conventions is breathtakingin in its audacity and extremely difficult
to detect where its limitations,at least  in terms of planetary
dynamics, are notwithstandin that many would like it to remain that
way.

Honestly guys,it is not worth it any longer,far from escaping Newton's
calendar driven clockwork universe,relativity buried guys deeper in it
and with the 'big bang' concept,the local conclusion of the core
astrological framework,there is nowhere left to go.