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Article #6429Re: EINSTEINIANA'S LOGIC
From: John Ryskamp
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:44
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:44
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On May 12, 11:03 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > John Norton is the only Einsteinian who can decipher Einstein's 1954 > confession: > > http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=vi... > John Stachel: "Einstein discussed the other side of the particle-field > dualism - get rid of fields and just have particles." > Einstein's 1954 confession: "I consider it entirely possible that > physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous > structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, > including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of > contemporary physics." > John Stachel's comment: "If I go down, everything goes down, ha ha, > hm, ha ha ha." > > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/companion.doc > John Norton: "Einstein could not see how to formulate a fully > relativistic electrodynamics merely using his new device of field > transformations. So he considered the possibility of modifying > Maxwell's electrodynamics in order to bring it into accord with an > emission theory of light, such as Newton had originally conceived. > There was some inevitability in these attempts, as long as he held to > classical (Galilean) kinematics. Imagine that some emitter sends out a > light beam at c. According to this kinematics, an observer who moves > past at v in the opposite direction, will see the emitter moving at v > and the light emitted at c+v. This last fact is the defining > characteristic of an emission theory of light: the velocity of the > emitter is added vectorially to the velocity of light emitted....If an > emission theory can be formulated as a field theory, it would seem to > be unable to determine the future course of processes from their state > in the present. AS LONG AS EINSTEIN EXPECTED A VIABLE THEORY LIGHT, > ELECTRICITY AND MAGNETISM TO BE A FIELD THEORY, these sorts of > objections would render an EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT INADMISSIBLE." > > Clearly John Stachel's reaction is just panic and hysteria but John > Norton, the cleverest Einsteinian, knows the truth. Given Norton's > analysis Einstein's 1954 confession can be modified in the following > way: > > Einstein's 1954 confession (modified): "I consider it entirely > possible that physics cannot be based upon my [Einstein's] 1905 false > light postulate. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the > air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest > of contemporary physics." > > More recent evidence that John Norton, the cleverest Einsteinian, does > know the truth: > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026831.500-what-makes-the-uni... > "Generalrelativityknits together space, time and gravity. > Confounding all common sense, how time passes in Einstein's universe > depends on what you are doing and where you are. Clocks run faster > when the pull of gravity is weaker, so if you live up a skyscraper you > age ever so slightly faster than you would if you lived on the ground > floor, where Earth's gravitational tug is stronger. "Generalrelativitycompletely changed our understanding of time," says Carlo > Rovelli, a theoretical physicist at the University of the > Mediterranean in Marseille, France.....It is still not clear who is > right, says John Norton, a philosopher based at the University of > Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Norton is hesitant to express it, but his > instinct - and the consensus in physics - seems to be that space and > time exist on their own. The trouble with this idea, though, is that > it doesn't sit well withrelativity, which describes space-time as a > malleable fabric whose geometry can be changed by the gravity of > stars, planets and matter." > > Evidence that all clever Einsteinians now know the truth: > > http://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Simultaneity-Routledge-Contemporary-... > Einstein,Relativityand AbsoluteSimultaneity(Routledge Studies in > Contemporary Philosophy) > "Einstein,Relativityand AbsoluteSimultaneityis an anthology of > original essays by an international team of leading philosophers and > physicists who, on the centenary of Albert Einsteins Special Theory ofRelativity, come together in this volume to reassess the contemporary > paradigm of the relativistic concept of time. A great deal has changed > since 1905 when Einstein proposed his Special Theory ofRelativity, > and this book offers a fresh reassessment of Special Relativitys > relativistic concept of time in terms of epistemology, metaphysics and > physics. There is no other book like this available; hence > philosophers and scientists across the world will welcome its > publication." > "UNFORTUNATELY FOR EINSTEIN'S SPECIALRELATIVITY, HOWEVER, ITS > EPISTEMOLOGICAL AND ONTOLOGICAL ASSUMPTIONS ARE NOW SEEN TO BE > QUESTIONABLE, UNJUSTIFIED, FALSE, PERHAPS EVEN ILLOGICAL." > Craig Callender: "In my opinion, by far the best way for the tenser to > respond to Putnam et al is to adopt the Lorentz 1915 interpretation of > time dilation and Fitzgerald contraction. Lorentz attributed these > effects (and hence the famous null results regarding an aether) to the > Lorentz invariance of the dynamical laws governing matter and > radiation, not to spacetime structure. On this view, Lorentz > invariance is not a spacetime symmetry but a dynamical symmetry, and > the special relativistic effects of dilation and contraction are not > purely kinematical. The background spacetime is Newtonian or neo- > Newtonian, not Minkowskian. Both Newtonian and neo-Newtonian spacetime > include a global absolutesimultaneityamong their invariant > structures (with Newtonian spacetime singling out one of neo-Newtonian > spacetimes many preferred inertial frames as the rest frame). On this > picture, there is norelativityofsimultaneityand spacetime is > uniquely decomposable into space and time." > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com How idiotic all this is, and what a roundabout, longwinded way of saying that the relativity of simultaneity is a constructivist argument and that the constructivist argument is Einstein's notion of a "natural" coincidence. Hey Pentcho, try to understand things clearly, OK? Nitwit.
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