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Article #6460Re: THE FALSE START OF DEDUCTIVE SCIENCE
From: Juan R. González-Álvarez
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:35
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:35
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Pentcho Valev wrote on Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:32:50 -0700: You do not understand thermodynamics. > In 1824 Sadi Carnot deduced the prototype of the second law of > thermodynamics: > > All reversible heat engines working between two fixed temperatures have > the same efficiency. > > from two premises: > > 1. Perpetuum mobile of the first kind is impossible. > > 2. Heat is conserved (cannot be converted into work by the heat engine). > > Then the second premise was officially declared false but the > conclusion, the prototype of the second law of thermodynamics, remained > gloriously true. More precisely, the glory was introduced by Clausius > who, in 1850, managed to convince the world that the false premise > should be forgotten and replaced by a true one: > > 2'. Heat flows spontaneously from hot to cold. > > Theoreticians and philosophers of science have never seen any problem in > the fact that, originally, a false premise was ESSENTIAL in the > deduction of a true conclusion. At least they should have considered the > following hypothesis: > > The conclusion, the prototype of the second law of thermodynamics, is > false as well; Clausius' 1850 ad hoc deduction was invalid. > > Pentcho Valev > pvalev@yahoo.com -- http://www.canonicalscience.org/
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