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Re: THE FALSE START OF DEDUCTIVE SCIENCE

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From: Juan R. González-Álvarez
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:35
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Pentcho Valev wrote on Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:32:50 -0700:

You do not understand thermodynamics.

> In 1824 Sadi Carnot deduced the prototype of the second law of
> thermodynamics:
> 
> All reversible heat engines working between two fixed temperatures have
> the same efficiency.
> 
> from two premises:
> 
> 1. Perpetuum mobile of the first kind is impossible.
> 
> 2. Heat is conserved (cannot be converted into work by the heat engine).
> 
> Then the second premise was officially declared false but the
> conclusion, the prototype of the second law of thermodynamics, remained
> gloriously true. More precisely, the glory was introduced by Clausius
> who, in 1850, managed to convince the world that the false premise
> should be forgotten and replaced by a true one:
> 
> 2'. Heat flows spontaneously from hot to cold.
> 
> Theoreticians and philosophers of science have never seen any problem in
> the fact that, originally, a false premise was ESSENTIAL in the
> deduction of a true conclusion. At least they should have considered the
> following hypothesis:
> 
> The conclusion, the prototype of the second law of thermodynamics, is
> false as well; Clausius' 1850 ad hoc deduction was invalid.
> 
> Pentcho Valev
> pvalev@yahoo.com





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