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On 24 Mag, 12:08, old...@yahoo.it wrote:
> On 17 Mag, 08:59, old...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > On 10 Mag, 10:55, old...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > On 10 Mag, 06:19, RP <no_mail_no_s...@yahoo.com> wrote:> On May 9, 7:03 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> > > i beg you pardon for the intrusion..but when i read 'dark matter' , i
> > > think with amusement that all should fall down if the cosmic distances
> > > ( measured today only with the sacred redshift ) were overextimed ..
> > > ( in that fantavision , i address to the works of Arp, Van Flandern
> > > and the hipotesis of my dog inwww.bbamateur.bizhosting.comand in
> > > 'co(s)mic observations' in  www.bbamateur.blogspot.com) ..some days
> > > ago i proposed the knowing of the experiment of Hayden : perheps
> > > somebody is drinking bier in the shadow to counting belches ... where
> > > are the smarting minds of the Androcles ( with lions ) , Valevs , Van
> > > Mortens, Andersons, Kholklovs ... don't say something to somebody the
> > > name H. C.Hayden ?( Haydin was a classic musician , no rock ) ..i
> > > report the words of    Selleri '' We finish noting that the  resultats
> > > gotten untill here , confirm the qualitative observation (( not only ,
> > > like i showed in 'some years later ..clock in washmachine' )) di
> > > Hayden : there are necessary to the electromagmetic signals about 300
> > > ns. 'in plus' for doing the complete turn of the planet verso east
> > > than verso owest ; the fact can only signify that the speed of ligth
> > > is different in the two senses '' ... now boys : you have  a week for
> > > make and post a small thougth ...our ambition is joint quantitatively
> > > the experiments of Sagnac  ''Compt. Rend. 157,708 and 1410 (1913) ; J.
> > > de Phys. 4,177 (1914) '' ..Michelson e Gale Astroph. J. 61, 137
> > > (1925) ..H.C.Hayden Physics Essays 8,366(1995) ...Einstein knew well
> > > works of Michelson also around the Sagnac effect , but in all his life
> > > cunningly did not make little thougths over the word Sagnac ..
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> > ..first concusions..: Sagnac did a logic formula which forecast the
> > fringes' movement in a rotating device ; he forecasted so convincently
> > (a device 1000 time bigger than his platform ) that Michelson & Gale
> > ( two yankies   ! ) realized in 300.000 m.^2 of land with positive
> > resultat ...: Einstein and his relativity should not have done that :
> > he remained in the shadow cashing E=m*V^2  ...and then, why V^2 or not
> > 1/2*V^2 , for example ?
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> so..: the experiments of Sagnac (1910), Michelson and Gale
> (1925),Hayden (1995) are approximately the same-ones ( in the sense
> that you can go through them with only some adjustment of
> proportionality ..)..of course we shall touch Michelson and Morley ,
> Einstein ... and firstly i want explain the words 'necessary
> approximation' and how this-ones are functioning in that field of
> experiments.. let's me adjust the crime' scene : i am in the site A ,
> near a river ; B and C are sites at 15 and 30 km against the stream ;
> the river is flowing at 3 km/hour and my bout goes at 30km/hour . If i
> go in C (30 km) , the  necessary time shall be 1,11111 hours and i
> conclude : the necessary approximation in time'measure for understand
> the stream, must be better than 10% ; if i go from C to A , the time
> employed is 0.9090 and for relieving the river'speed , it is necessary
> again an approximation of 10% ; if i do the go-and-back travel , the
> total time shall be 2,0202 ..: the necessary approximation becomes
> 1/100 of total time ...conclusion : for a single trip, nec. approx. is
> 1/n , for a double travel nec. approx. becomes 1/n*n ..if something is
> wrong , you can say .. to next weekkk

but probabely nobody is interested to the following..... recenrly i
noted that the Michelson and Morley exp. failed because the target was
not 30 km.s. but 0,3 km.s. ( like the speed of earth and so the
necessary precision become 10.000 time superior ) and so G. Joss
( 1930 ) Essen (1965 ) , Townes (1958 ) and Champaney ( 1965 ) failed
probabely having not enough precision or forgetting the chaining of
waves , discovered after the year 1970 in the tecnic of laser
giroscopes .. somebody knows something around the chained waves ?