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Article #6494Re: LARGE HADRON COLLIDER AND MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT
From: Spirit of Truth
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:04
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:04
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"jem" <xxx@xxx.xxx> wrote in message news:I5PWl.21823$xW6.8992@newsfe11.iad... > Spirit of Truth wrote: >> Added to and correction of typo: >> "jem" <xxx@xxx.xxx> wrote in message >> news:uouWl.597$h53.307@newsfe10.iad... >>> Spirit of Truth wrote: >>>> "Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote >>> [nothing worth reading] >>>> Contrary to people who critize what you post, you are correct. >>>> >>>> MMX did NOT prove anything. ANY child could expain >>>> that if light was ballistic the two way result would have given the >>>> result they got OR if one simply looked at Galileon relativity >>>> the local distance the light travelled would obviously not >>>> change so would have given the same result. >>> Based on your frequently displayed "knowledge" of facts, Spirit, your >>> choice of stage name is oxymoronic. What the MMX "proved" is that light >>> wasn't a wave traveling through a material substance - an important >>> discovery since, based on lots of other discoveries, light was presumed >>> to be a wave. And, although some later discoveries were consistent with >>> particulate light, it's clear, at this point, that light isn't ballistic >>> (e.g., the GPS wouldn't work if it were). >> >> Jem, you should know better than that. Many experts in SR >> state exactly what I stated above about MMX.. And, anybody >> with even a modicum understanding of math (a child) could expain >> it to you. >> >>>> Einstein using, or anyone else using, MMX to justify SR >>>> or length contraction is just plain incorrect. >>>> >>> Single experimental results don't justify theories, viable theories have >>> to agree with ALL experimental results. >>> >>> BTW, Spirit, speaking of things "ANY child could explain", have you >>> realized yet that not both observers, in Einstein's train gedanken, >>> can simultaneously see the light flashes? >> >> Jem, you still are not confronting that both rest frames would so >> exactly that. > > No, Spirit, both rest frames wouldn't say exactly that, since /that/ is an > impossibility. Sorry, Jem, you are incorrect. What is an impossibility in this universe is lack of simultaneity. Spirit of Truth
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