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Spirit of Truth wrote:
> Added to and correction of typo:
> "jem" <xxx@xxx.xxx> wrote in message news:uouWl.597$h53.307@newsfe10.iad...
>> Spirit of Truth wrote:
>>> "Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote
>>   [nothing worth reading]
>>> Contrary to people who critize what you post, you are correct.
>>>
>>> MMX did NOT prove anything. ANY child could expain
>>> that if light was ballistic the two way result would have given the
>>> result they got OR if one simply looked at Galileon relativity
>>> the local distance the light travelled would obviously not
>>> change so would have given the same result.
>> Based on your frequently displayed "knowledge" of facts, Spirit, your 
>> choice of stage name is oxymoronic.  What the MMX "proved" is that light 
>> wasn't a wave traveling through a material substance - an important 
>> discovery since, based on lots of other discoveries, light was presumed to 
>> be a wave.  And, although some later discoveries were consistent with 
>> particulate light, it's clear, at this point, that light isn't ballistic 
>> (e.g., the GPS wouldn't work if it were).
> 
> Jem, you should know better than that. Many experts in SR
> state exactly what I stated above about MMX.. And, anybody
> with even a modicum understanding of math (a child) could expain
> it to you.
> 
>>> Einstein using, or anyone else using, MMX to justify SR
>>> or length contraction is just plain incorrect.
>>>
>> Single experimental results don't justify theories, viable theories have 
>> to agree with ALL experimental results.
>>
>> BTW, Spirit, speaking of things "ANY child could explain", have you 
>> realized yet that not both observers, in Einstein's train gedanken,
>> can simultaneously see the light flashes?
> 
> Jem, you still are not confronting that both rest frames would so
> exactly that.

No, Spirit, both rest frames wouldn't say exactly that, since /that/ 
is an impossibility.  And it's an impossibility even in models in 
which simultaneity is absolute.  There's exactly one location, in 
Einstein's one-spatial-dimension gedanken, at which the two light 
flashes meet, and when they meet, not both observers are at that location.

It's something that almost "ANY child could explain", Spirit, but some 
grown-ups (chronologically speaking) seem to have an awfully hard time 
understanding the explanation.