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Re: gravitational bending of light, surprising?

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From: PD
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:30
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On May 20, 8:52 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 19, 7:22 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 19, 12:05 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Then the clever teacher should explain: "Brothers Einsteinans,
> > > Einstein's 1911 calculation based on Newton's emission theory of light
> > > was wrong/correct and inconsistent/consistent with the gravitational
> > > redshift factor 1+V/c^2, Einstein's 1916 calculation was correct/wrong
> > > and consistent/inconsistent with the gravitational redshift factor 1+V/
> > > c^2, but in any case the speed of light in a gravitational field is
> > > VARIABLE. So those who teach you that the speed of light in a
> > > gravitational field is constant are by no means clever teachers."
>
> > You know, Pentcho, at some point you should take responsibility for
> > your own confusion -- and CORRECT it -- rather than pinning the blame
> > on teachers for your confusion. It's really not a big deal. It happens
> > to students every day that they misunderstand something that their
> > teacher said, and you don't find them spending their lifetimes
> > expressing their outrage at their teachers for their misunderstanding.
>
> > PD
>
> ------------------------
> what is misunderstanding  by knowing that
> the photon has mass
> from say the formulas  E=hf
> and therefore bends next to the sun

Because Newtonian physics DOES predict that *qualitatively*, just like
you do. But, as has been pointed out to you repeatedly, *qualitative*
is not enough. The Newtonian prediction is *quantitatively* wrong.
Which is enough to say that it is just plain wrong, even
*qualitatively*.

>
> may be it is the misunderstanding of
> parrot teachers that waist the precious
> human resources by THEIR  misunderstandings ???
> what is the misunderstanding by   un  derstanding that the photon is
>  a limit case OF A MASS
> that moves at c  ???
>
> and people why misunderstand
> and consider themselves as understanding
> all physics
> and then blaming others for misunderstandings  !!
> that is inmany cases much wrong than misunderstanding
> that is
> **dishonesty **!!!
>
> Y.Porat
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>
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