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Article #6571Re: Newtonian gravity is the correct theory of gravitation
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:52
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:52
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On May 22, 7:43 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in sci.physics.relativity: > Albertito wrote: > > [...] > > If you had bothered to STUDY this, you would know that there are > numerous experiments that refute Newtonian gravity. So Newtonian gravity > cannot be "correct" (in that it accurately reflects the world we > inhabit). These experiments do not refute GR, or some other models of > gravity.... The gravitational redshift factor 1+phi/c^2 experimentally confirmed by Pound and Rebka is consistent with: (A) Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+phi/c^2) given by Newton's emission theory of light? (B) Einstein's 1915 (or 1955) equation c'=c(1+2phi/c^2) given by general relativity? http://www.speed-light.info/speed_of_light_variable.htm "Einstein wrote this paper in 1911 in German (download from: http://www.physik.uni-augsburg.de/annalen/history/einstein-papers/1911_35_898-908.pdf). It predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. You can find an English translation of this paper in the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity' beginning on page 99; you will find in section 3 of that paper Einstein's derivation of the variable speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is: c'=c0(1+phi/c^2) where phi is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light co is measured......You can find a more sophisticated derivation later by Einstein (1955) from the full theory of general relativity in the weak field approximation....For the 1955 results but not in coordinates see page 93, eqn (6.28): c(r)=[1+2phi(r)/c^2]c. Namely the 1955 approximation shows a variation in km/sec twice as much as first predicted in 1911." Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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