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Article #6580Re: gravitational bending of light, surprising?
From: Y.Porat
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 04:52
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 04:52
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On May 21, 8:17ย pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > On May 21, 9:46 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm going to let your usual spouting about original thinking and > parroting slide by, to focus on one key issue below: ------------------ you focus on just one issue because you have a real answer for all the other issues that i raised !!! that is demagogism ------------ > > > 3 > > as far as i heard the difference > > between the 'Newtonian calculation and GR calculation is > > quantitatively about ย 2 ย times magnitude > > that is not a fantastic difference > > This is where you are DEAD wrong. If you have a measurement > sensitivity of a percent or so, then a factor of 2 is as wide as the > sea, and it is clearly enough to rule out one completely and accept ------------ the one who have no practical sense of measurement is you not me yur se;ective senses can see a mice but no see that at the same time an Elephant is satnding right before the mice !! i ddint emphasize the principal argument that is much bigger than the figures of 2 here or 3 there it is the **mathematial prove that THE PHOTON HAS MASS BY E= hf !! that should be enopugh to abolish stupid curved soace trime for sensible people ahio are real physicists it seems that you are not a physicist you are a cleargy man not only a cleary man but one who have a deeep personal interrst in keepinng all he old aprrotong ! or else** how can you come to morow to your students and much of all i tought you until now is nonsense and i was wasting your time and mioney and much worse --*precious time ** and i turned you to little parrots like myself ?? whiloe you are not a brave and honest enough person ??? ----------- > the other. This is the *whole point* of quantitative experiment -- to > make a measurement with sufficient precision to unambiguously discern > which model is right and which model is wrong. > ---------------------- you have a wonderful quantitative sense to see fleas but not to see elephants standing right before them !! ---------- > You have the completely incorrect impression that, once you get a > model within the ballpark, then the rest is just fiddling and fitting. > That is wrong, wrong, wrong, and it is not how science works, nor how > it should work. > ------------- you can say 100 times **wrong** that is because you are an emotional thru believer in a religion not in real physics while you are the wrong one if youwould look properly to how GR was built and used you would find that it could not work at its nnase unless its basic figures were fiffled in to the formulas !!! a correction of magnitude 2 is much less wrong than the cheating fiddling in that was done in GR !! and btw there is nothing wrong i fitting formula to data that is actually the only way how pioneering science cam be don !! now since you never in your life did any pioneering science how can **you** be presumptuous enough to teach *me* how pioneering science is done ?? Keep well Y.Porat ----------------------- > PD
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