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Article #6601Re: gravitational bending of light, surprising?
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:05
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:05
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On May 18, 7:37 pm, carlip-nos...@physics.ucdavis.edu wrote in sci.physics.relativity: > mluttg...@orange.fr wrote: > > Do you accept the calculation of light deflection > > given in the following paper? > > Newtonian gravitational deflection of light revisited > > arXiv: physics/0508030v4 [physics. gen- ph] 17 Apr 2009 > > (http://xxx.if.usp.br/abs/physics/0508030) > > It looks right (though of course it doesn't start at the > beginning; equation (5) for eccentricity is derived from > Newton's laws). Honest Carlip, any clever teacher in Einsteiniana should immediately draw the attention of sillier brothers to the following text: http://xxx.if.usp.br/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0508/0508030v4.pdf "Einstein’s first calculation of the gravitational deflection of light, in 1911 (see [4], for a historical account and scientific references), was performed using the Equivalence Principle and the equivalent mass-energy of a photon. The calculation yielded δNG. Only in his second calculation, published in 1916, where he included the effect of space-time curvature, he obtained a value twice as large as his first calculation, i.e., δGR [4]." Then the clever teacher should explain: "Brothers Einsteinans, Einstein's 1911 calculation based on Newton's emission theory of light was wrong/correct and inconsistent/consistent with the gravitational redshift factor 1+V/c^2, Einstein's 1916 calculation was correct/wrong and consistent/inconsistent with the gravitational redshift factor 1+V/ c^2, but in any case the speed of light in a gravitational field is VARIABLE. So those who teach you that the speed of light in a gravitational field is constant are by no means clever teachers." Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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