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Article #6795Re: WHO IS WELCOME TO TRY TO KILL SPECIAL RELATIVITY?
From: Angelo
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 23:04
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 23:04
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Sue... ha scritto (wrote): > On May 3, 4:02 pm, Angelo <patri...@libero.it> wrote: > > Dear Uncle Al, perhaps you remember our (sporadic, ok) > > exchanges here in Usenet, mainly on (very interesting) > > chemistry topics, which I regret for not having continued. > > > > However, I'm here now to ask some enlightening on what > > you said below. > > > > Uncle Al ha scritto (wrote): > > > > [snip] > > > > > Were there to be internal inconsistencies in SR (meaning > > > inconsistencies of a purely mathematical logical nature) that would > > > automatically lead to contradictions in number theory, itself, and > > > arithmetic, since the mathematics of Minkowski geometry is > > > equiconsistent with the theory of real numbers and with arithmetic. > > > > I think I understand your English, but not enough math & physics > > involved above. Could you please clarify (in whichever manner you > > like, if possible) such contradictions, maybe pointing me out some > > relevant examples? > > I don't normally screw up what Uncle Al can > better screw up all by himself but the business > of exploring the chiral anti gravity properties of > stockings worn inside out surely makes immense > demands on his time. ;-) Not sure to perfectly understand the above (my fault, of course), but I think to have caught the overall meaning. BTW, it seems to me, and (if so) appreciate, that you are luring about 'screwing' and 'wearing inside out' in connection with 'chirality' ;-) , OTHO cannot comment on 'gravity', too poor physics knowledge on my side. And last but not least, no pun intended for Uncle Al. > I think this might be the sort of expression he > was referring to: > > <<... the four-dimensional space-time continuum > of the theory of relativity, in its most essential > formal properties, shows a pronounced relationship > to the three-dimensional continuum of Euclidean > geometrical space. In order to give due prominence > to this relationship, however, we must replace > the usual time co-ordinate t by an imaginary > magnitude > > sqrt(-1) > > ct proportional to it. Under these conditions, > the natural laws satisfying the demands of the > (special) theory of relativity assume mathematical > forms, in which the time co-ordinate plays exactly > the same role as the three space co-ordinates. >> > http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinate_time > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_number OK, it appears to me that you've clarified more the physical side (thanks) than the mathematical one, in particular the connection with number theory, theory of real numbers, and arithmetic. > Sue... Thanks again, Angelo
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!l5g2000vbc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Angelo <patrik56@libero.it> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,fr.sci.physique,sci.astro,alt.philosophy Subject: Re: WHO IS WELCOME TO TRY TO KILL SPECIAL RELATIVITY? Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 74 Message-ID: <5df4b693-d060-4e32-8bd3-5a2f3b571763@l5g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> References: <9e883454-77be-40b1-bb4f-6a931524a642@d19g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <49FB3345.F4A8DA95@hate.spam.net> <ed694002-54c2-4d5d-b68b-f9813406a462@o20g2000vbh.googlegroups.com> <457d2396-0a60-4a26-a209-5dae09fadf00@r36g2000vbr.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.20.69.79 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1241391887 28965 127.0.0.1 (3 May 2009 23:04:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 23:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: l5g2000vbc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.20.69.79; posting-account=pmALuQoAAADBms3YOGCx434HuVgo22TT User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; GTB6; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)