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Article #6902Re: NEWTON'S EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT
From: Androcles
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:19
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:19
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"Dr. Henri Wilson" <hw@..> wrote in message news:igm8t41jicm6art1mmi5u4c29aanht3djc@4ax.com... > On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:50:24 -0700 (PDT), Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >>http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/496904/relativity/252878/Special-relativity >>ENCYCLOPAEDIA BRITANNICA TEACHING LIES: "The fact that the speed of >>light is the same for all observers is inexplicable in ordinary terms. >>If a passenger in a train moving at 100 km per hour shoots an arrow in >>the train's direction of motion at 200 km per hour, a trackside >>observer would measure the speed of the arrow as the sum of the two >>speeds, or 300 km per hour (see figure). In analogy, if the train >>moves at the speed of light and a passenger shines a laser in the same >>direction, then common sense indicates that a trackside observer >>should see the light moving at the sum of the two speeds, or twice the >>speed of light (6 � 108 metres per second). While such a law of >>addition of velocities is valid in classical mechanics, THE MICHELSON- >>MORLEY EXPERIMENT SHOWED THAT LIGHT DOES NOT OBEY THIS LAW." >> >>Einsteinians who are somewhat less dishonest than those who have >>written Encyclopaedia Britannica: >> >>http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdf >>John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as >>evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost >>universally use it as support for the light postulate of special >>relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE >>WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT >>POSTULATE." >> >>http://books.google.com/books?id=JokgnS1JtmMC >>"Relativity and Its Roots" By Banesh Hoffmann >>p.92: "Moreover, if light consists of particles, as Einstein had >>suggested in his paper submitted just thirteen weeks before this one, >>the second principle seems absurd: A stone thrown from a speeding >>train can do far more damage than one thrown from a train at rest; the >>speed of the particle is not independent of the motion of the object >>emitting it. And if we take light to consist of particles and assume >>that these particles obey Newton's laws, they will conform to >>Newtonian relativity and thus automatically account for the null >>result of the Michelson-Morley experiment without recourse to >>contracting lengths, local time, or Lorentz transformations. Yet, as >>we have seen, Einstein resisted the temptation to account for the null >>result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian >>ideas, and introduced as his second postulate something that was more >>or less obvious when thought of in terms of waves in an ether." >> >>James H. Smith "Introduction � la relativit�" EDISCIENCE 1969 pp. >>39-41: "Si la lumi�re �tait un flot de particules m�caniques ob�issant >>aux lois de la m�canique, il n'y aurait aucune difficult� � comprendre >>les r�sultats de l'exp�rience de Michelson-Morley.... Supposons, par >>exemple, qu'une fus�e se d�place avec une vitesse (1/2)c par rapport � >>un observateur et qu'un rayon de lumi�re parte de son nez. Si la >>vitesse de la lumi�re signifiait vitesse des "particules" de la >>lumi�re par rapport � leur source, alors ces "particules" de lumi�re >>se d�placeraient � la vitesse c/2+c=(3/2)c par rapport � >>l'observateur. Mais ce comportement ne ressemble pas du tout � celui >>d'une onde, car les ondes se propagent � une certaine vitesse par >>rapport au milieu dans lequel elles se d�veloppent et non pas � une >>certaine vitesse par rapport � leur source..... Il nous faut insister >>sur le fait suivant: QUAND EINSTEIN PROPOSA QUE LA VITESSE DE LA >>LUMIERE SOIT INDEPENDANTE DE CELLE DE LA SOURCE, IL N'EN EXISTAIT >>AUCUNE PREUVE EXPERIMENTALE. IL LE POSTULA PAR PURE NECESSITE >>LOGIQUE." >> >>Pentcho Valev >>pvalev@yahoo.com > > It is ludicrous to claim that light leaving a galaxy 10 billion LYs away > moves > at exactly c wrt little planet Earth when little planet Earth wasn't even > in > existence when it was emitted. > Read the first line of Michelson's paper and then comment. http://www.aip.org/history/gap/PDF/michelson.pdf
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