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Article #6953Re: Open Letter to the Royal Society
From: HardySpicer
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:24
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:24
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On Mar 12, 9:11 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Open Letter to: Martin Rees, President of the Royal Society > > Copy to: Athene Donald FRS, Laurence Eaves Lancashire-Spencer > Professor of Physics, Prof John Peacock, Martin Taylor FRS, Lorna > Casselton FRS > > Dear Dr. Rees, > > Ninety years ago the Royal Society found it suitable to bury > definitively the antithesis of Einstein's 1905 light postulate - the > equation c'=c+v given by Newton's emission theory of light (v is the > speed of the light source relative to the observer) - although even > then informed scientists including Einstein knew this particular > prediction of the emission theory was correct. Since then a > schizophrenic atmosphere has been established where informed > scientists often hint at and even extract profit from the correct > equation c'=c+v (see examples of guilty conscience below) while > ordinary mortals are forced to learn by rote the absurd consequences > of Einstein's 1905 false light postulate. I think it is time for YOU > to OFFICIALLY restore the truth. > > I will post this Open Letter on a few internet forums. > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com > > Examples of guilty conscience: > > "http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519406/posts > "A GROUP of astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws > thought to govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of > relativity, must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor > Stephen Hawking and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such > laws may only work for our universe but not in others that are now > also thought to exist. "It is becoming increasingly likely that the > rules we had thought were fundamental through time and space are > actually just bylaws for our bit of it," said Rees, whose new book, > Our Cosmic Habitat, is published next month. "Creation is emerging as > even stranger than we thought." Among the ideas facing revision is > Einstein's belief that the speed of light must always be the same - > 186,000 miles a second in a vacuum. There is growing evidence that > light moved much faster during the early stages of our universe. Rees, > Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact of such ideas that > they recently organised a private conference in Cambridge for more > than 30 leading cosmologists." > > http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm > Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the only theory that bothered > Einstein. Few people have appreciated how dissatisfied he was with his > own theories of relativity. Special relativity grew out of Einstein's > insight that the laws of electromagnetism cannot depend on relative > motion and that the speed of light therefore must be always the same, > no matter how the source or the observer moves. Among the consequences > of that theory are that energy and mass are equivalent (the now- > legendary relationship E = mc2) and that time and distance are > relative, not absolute. SPECIAL RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS > OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS > WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT." > > Joao Magueijo, PLUS VITE QUE LA LUMIERE, Dunod, 2003, pp. 298-299: > "La racine du mal etait clairement la relativite restreinte. Tous ces > paradoxes resultaient d'effets bien connus comme la contraction des > longueurs, la dilatation du temps, ou E=mc^2, tous des predictions > directes de la relativite restreinte. (...) La consequence en etait > inevitable: pour edifier une theorie coherente de la gravite > quantique, quelle qu'elle soit, nous [Joao Magueijo et Lee Smolin] > devions commencer par abandonner la relativite restreinte. (...) Mais, > comme nous l'avons vu, celle-ci repose sur deux principes > independants. Le premier est la relativite du mouvement, le second la > constance de la vitesse de la lumiere. Une des solutions possibles a > notre probleme pouvait etre d'abandonner la relativite du mouvement. > (...) C'est une possibilite bien sur, mais nous avons choisi > l'alternative evidente: preserver la relativite du mouvement, mais > admettre qu'a de tres hautes energies, la vitesse de la lumiere ne > soit plus constante." > > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/OntologyOUP_TimesNR.pdf > "What Can We Learn about the Ontology of Space and Time from the > Theory of Relativity?", John D. Norton: "In general relativity there > is no comparable sense of the constancy of the speed of light. The > constancy of the speed of light is a consequence of the perfect > homogeneity of spacetime presumed in special relativity. There is a > special velocity at each event; homogeneity forces it to be the same > velocity everywhere. We lose that homogeneity in the transition to > general relativity and with it we lose the constancy of the speed of > light. Such was Einstein's conclusion at the earliest moments of his > preparation for general relativity. ALREADY IN 1907, A MERE TWO YEARS > AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE SPECIAL THEORY, HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE > SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE IN THE PRESENCE OF A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD." > > http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdf > John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as > evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost > universally use it as support for the light postulate of special > relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE > WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT > POSTULATE." > > http://www.astrofind.net/documents/the-composition-and-essence-of-rad... > The Development of Our Views on the Composition and Essence of > Radiation by Albert Einstein > Albert Einstein 1909: "A large body of facts shows undeniably that > light has certain fundamental properties that are better explained by > Newton's emission theory of light than by the oscillation theory. For > this reason, I believe that the next phase in the development of > theoretical physics will bring us a theory of light that can be > considered a fusion of the oscillation and emission theories. The > purpose of the following remarks is to justify this belief and to show > that a profound change in our views on the composition and essence of > light is imperative.....Then the electromagnetic fields that make up > light no longer appear as a state of a hypothetical medium, but rather > as independent entities that the light source gives off, just as in > Newton's emission theory of light......Relativity theory has changed > our views on light. Light is conceived not as a manifestation of the > state of some hypothetical medium, but rather as an independent entity > like matter. Moreover, this theory shares with the corpuscular theory > of light the unusual property that light carries inertial mass from > the emitting to the absorbing object." > > http://books.google.com/books?id=JokgnS1JtmMC > "Relativity and Its Roots" By Banesh Hoffmann > p.92: "Moreover, if light consists of particles, as Einstein had > suggested in his paper submitted just thirteen weeks before this one, > the second principle seems absurd: A stone thrown from a speeding > train can do far more damage than one thrown from a train at rest; the > speed of the particle is not independent of the motion of the object > emitting it. And if we take light to consist of particles and assume > that these particles obey Newton's laws, they will conform to > Newtonian relativity and thus automatically account for the null > result of the Michelson-Morley experiment without recourse to > contracting lengths, local time, or Lorentz transformations. Yet, as > we have seen, Einstein resisted the temptation to account for the null > result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian > ideas, and introduced as his second postulate something that was more > or less obvious when thought of in terms of waves in an ether." > > http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm > "So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is not constant in > a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies as > well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]. If this were > not so, there would be no bending of light by the gravitational field > of stars....Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the calculation > in: 'On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light,' > Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911. which predated the full formal > development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is > widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99 > of the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity.' You will find in > section 3 of that paper, Einstein's derivation of the (variable) speed > of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is > c' = c0 ( 1 + V / c^2 ) > where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the > speed of light c0 is measured." > > http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp > "So, faced with this evidence most readers must be wondering why we > learn about the importance of the constancy of speed of light. Did > Einstein miss this? Sometimes I find out that what's written in our > textbooks is just a biased version taken from the original work, so > after searching within the original text of the theory of GR by > Einstein, I found this quote: "In the second place our result shows > that, according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the > constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of > the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity > and to which we have already frequently referred, cannot claim any > unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place > when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position. Now we > might think that as a consequence of this, the special theory of > relativity and with it the whole theory of relativity would be laid in > the dust. But in reality this is not the case. We can only conclude > that the special theory of relativity cannot claim an unlimited domain > of validity ; its results hold only so long as we are able to > disregard the influences of gravitational fields on the phenomena > (e.g. of light)." - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) - The General Theory > of Relativity: Chapter 22 - A Few Inferences from the General > Principle of Relativity-. Today we find that since the Special Theory > of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called mainstream > science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that the speed > of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat > surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the > Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der > Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the > gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light > in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for > the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity. > One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2) > where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the > measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL > REDSHIFT FACTOR." > > http://www.fqxi.org/data/articles/Searching_for_the_Golden_Spike.pdf > "Loop quantum gravity also makes the heretical prediction that the > speed of light depends on its frequency. That prediction violates > special relativity, Einstein's rule that light in a vacuum travels at > a constant speed for all observers..." > > http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/smolin03/smolin03_print.html > Lee Smolin: "Now, here is the really interesting part: Some of the > effects predicted by the theory appear to be in conflict with one of > the principles of Einstein's special theory of relativity, the theory > that says that the speed of light is a universal constant. It's the > same for all photons, and it is independent of the motion of the > sender or observer. How is this possible, if that theory is itself > based on the principles of relativity? The principle of the constancy > of the speed of light is part of special relativity, but we quantized > Einstein's general theory of relativity.....But there is another > possibility. This is that the principle of relativity is preserved, > but Einstein's special theory of relativity requires modification so > as to allow photons to have a speed that depends on energy. The most > shocking thing I have learned in the last year is that this is a real > possibility. A photon can have an energy-dependent speed without > violating the principle of relativity! This was understood a few years > ago by Amelino Camelia. I got involved in this issue through work I > did with Joao Magueijo, a very talented young cosmologist at Imperial > College, London. During the two years I spent working there, Joao kept > coming to me and bugging me with this problem.....These ideas all > seemed crazy to me, and for a long time I didn't get it. I was sure it > was wrong! But Joao kept bugging me and slowly I realized that they > had a point. We have since written several papers together showing how > Einstein's postulates may be modified to give a new version of special > relativity in which the speed of light can depend on energy." > > http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E03E7D8143FF932A05751... > "As propounded by Einstein as an audaciously confident young patent > clerk in 1905, relativity declares that the laws of physics, and in > particular the speed of light -- 186,000 miles per second -- are the > same no matter where you are or how fast you are moving. Generations > of students and philosophers have struggled with the paradoxical > consequences of Einstein's deceptively simple notion, which underlies > all of modern physics and technology, wrestling with clocks that speed > up and slow down, yardsticks that contract and expand and bad jokes > using the word "relative."......"Perhaps relativity is too restrictive > for what we need in quantum gravity," Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to > drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." > > http://www.mfo.de/programme/schedule/2006/08c/OWR_2006_10.pdf > Jean Eisenstaedt: "At the end of the 18th century, a natural extension > of Newton's dynamics to light was developed but immediately forgotten. > A body of works completed the Principia with a relativistic optics of > moving bodies, the discovery of the Doppler-Fizeau effect some sixty > years before Doppler, and many other effects and ideas which represent > a fascinating preamble to Einstein relativities. It was simply > supposed that 'a body-light', as Newton named it, was subject to the > whole dynamics of the Principia in much the same way as were material > particles; thus it was subject to the Galilean relativity and its > velocity was supposed to be variable. Of course it was subject to the > short range 'refringent' force of the corpuscular theory of light -- > which is part of the Principia-- but also to the long range force of > gravitation which induces Newton's theory of gravitation. The fact > that the 'mass' of a corpuscle of light was not known did not > constitute a problem since it does not appear in the Newtonian (or > Einsteinian) equations of motion. It was precisely what John Michell > (1724-1793), Robert Blair (1748-1828), Johann G. von Soldner > (1776-1833) and Fran¸cois Arago (1786-1853) were to do at the end of > the 18th century and the beginning the 19th century in the context of > Newton's dynamics. Actually this 'completed' Newtonian theory of light > and material corpuscle seems to have been implicitly accepted at the > time. In such a Newtonian context, not only Soldner's calculation of > the deviation of light in a gravitational field was understood, but > also dark bodies (cousins of black holes). A natural (Galilean and > thus relativistic) optics of moving bodies was also developed which > easily explained aberration and implied as well the essence of what we > call today the Doppler effect. Moreover, at the same time the > structure of -- but also the questions raised by-- the Michelson > experiment was understood. Most of this corpus has long been > forgotten. The Michell-Blair-Arago effect, prior to Doppler's effect, > is entirely unknown to physicists and historians. As to the influence > of gravitation on light, the story was very superficially known but > had never been studied in any detail. Moreover, the existence of a > theory dealing with light, relativity and gravitation, embedded in > Newton's Principia was completely ignored by physicists and by > historians as well. But it was a simple and natural way to deal with > the question of light, relativity (and gravitation) in a Newtonian > context. EINSTEIN HIMSELF DID NOT KNOW OF THIS NEWTONIAN THEORY OF > LIGHT AND HE DID NOT RELY ON IT IN HIS OWN RESEARCH." > > http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=vi... > John Stachel: "Einstein discussed the other side of the particle-field > dualism - get rid of fields and just have particles." > Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot > be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. > Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the > theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary > physics." > John Stachel's comment: "If I go down, everything goes down, ha ha, > hm, ha ha ha." From the Royal Society Dear Idiot please fuck off!
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