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Article #6965Re: LOGICISM AGAINST EMPIRICISM IN DEDUCTIVE SCIENCE
From: Jang Jin Hong
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:20
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:20
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On Mar 5, 3:16 am, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote: > Jang Jin Hong wrote: > > On Mar 4, 3:30 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Karl Popper: "To this we have to add THE PRINCIPLE OF EMPIRICISM which > >>asserts that in science, only observation and experiment may decide > >>upon the acceptance or rejection of scientific statements, including > >>laws and theories." > > >>If I were in Popper's shoes, I would have written: > > >>"To this we have to add THE PRINCIPLE OF LOGICISM which asserts that > >>in science, only logical analysis of the deductive chain may decide > >>upon the acceptance or rejection of scientific statements, including > >>laws and theories." > > >>Example: Einsteiniana gives three incompatible equations showing how > >>the speed of light varies with the gravitational potential V: > >>Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2), Einstein's 1915 equation c'=c > >>(1+2V/c^2) and the constant-speed equation c'=c. The gravitational > >>redshift factor (1+V/c^2) measured in 1960 by Pound and Rebka was > >>consistent with one of them, c'=c(1+V/c^2), and that was one of the > >>reasons why Divine Albert's Divine Theory was gloriously confirmed > >>(the other reason was that Divine Albert's Divine Theory had to be > >>gloriously confirmed anyway). > > >>Logical analysis shows that c'=c (the speed of light does not vary > >>with the gravitational potential) is equivalent to Einstein's 1905 > >>light postulate (the speed of light does not vary with the speed of > >>the light source) whereas c'=c(1+V/c^2) is equivalent to the > >>antithesis of the light postulate, the equation c'=c+v given by > >>Newton's emission theory of light (v is the speed of the light source > >>relative to the observer). Therefore in 1960 Divine Albert's Divine > >>Theory should have been rejected rather than gloriously confirmed. > > >>Another example: Logical analysis shows that the conclusion "The bug > >>is both dead and alive"http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/Relativ/bugrivet.html > >>can validly be deduced from Einstein's 1905 light postulate. This is > >>REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM par excellence: again, Divine Albert's Divine > >>Theory should have been rejected. > > >>Pentcho Valev > >>pva...@yahoo.com > > > It is superstitious to use word "divine" to scientific theory. > > In my personal opinion, the most sucessful application of relativity > > is electromagnetism. > > There is no experiment result which can reject relativity. > > but in viewpoint of philosophy, It is possible to accept other theory. > > This is because philosophy has nothing to do with science. > > > > > > > your posting has some relation with my document look > >http://monad.kr/relativity/relativity.htm- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - You are Parrot.
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