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Article #6967Re: LOGICISM AGAINST EMPIRICISM IN DEDUCTIVE SCIENCE
From: Androcles
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:43
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:43
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"Jang Jin Hong" <monad@chol.com> wrote in message news:46772fdd-a831-40b1-8260-c729df39d6f6@k9g2000prh.googlegroups.com... On Mar 4, 3:30 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Karl Popper: "To this we have to add THE PRINCIPLE OF EMPIRICISM which > asserts that in science, only observation and experiment may decide > upon the acceptance or rejection of scientific statements, including > laws and theories." > > If I were in Popper's shoes, I would have written: > > "To this we have to add THE PRINCIPLE OF LOGICISM which asserts that > in science, only logical analysis of the deductive chain may decide > upon the acceptance or rejection of scientific statements, including > laws and theories." > > Example: Einsteiniana gives three incompatible equations showing how > the speed of light varies with the gravitational potential V: > Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2), Einstein's 1915 equation c'=c > (1+2V/c^2) and the constant-speed equation c'=c. The gravitational > redshift factor (1+V/c^2) measured in 1960 by Pound and Rebka was > consistent with one of them, c'=c(1+V/c^2), and that was one of the > reasons why Divine Albert's Divine Theory was gloriously confirmed > (the other reason was that Divine Albert's Divine Theory had to be > gloriously confirmed anyway). > > Logical analysis shows that c'=c (the speed of light does not vary > with the gravitational potential) is equivalent to Einstein's 1905 > light postulate (the speed of light does not vary with the speed of > the light source) whereas c'=c(1+V/c^2) is equivalent to the > antithesis of the light postulate, the equation c'=c+v given by > Newton's emission theory of light (v is the speed of the light source > relative to the observer). Therefore in 1960 Divine Albert's Divine > Theory should have been rejected rather than gloriously confirmed. > > Another example: Logical analysis shows that the conclusion "The bug > is both dead and > alive"http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/Relativ/bugrivet.html > can validly be deduced from Einstein's 1905 light postulate. This is > REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM par excellence: again, Divine Albert's Divine > Theory should have been rejected. > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com It is superstitious to use word "divine" to scientific theory. ========================================= No, it is deliberate sarcasm. Sarcasm: 1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain 2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm ========================================= In my personal opinion, the most sucessful application of relativity is electromagnetism. Opinions are like arseholes. Everybody has one and they all stink. There is no experiment result which can reject relativity. ====================================== That's a lie. "If we assume that the result proved for a polygonal line is also valid for a continuously curved line, we arrive at this result: If one of two synchronous clocks at A is moved in a closed curve with constant velocity until it returns to A, the journey lasting t seconds, then by the clock which has remained at rest the travelled clock on its arrival at A will be 1/2tv^2/c^2 second slow. Thence we conclude that a balance-clock at the equator must go more slowly, by a very small amount, than a precisely similar clock situated at one of the poles under otherwise identical conditions." An OBVIOUS lie.
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