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Article #7Re: Extremism for Science and Religion.. atheism doesn't even rate a mention.. it's irrelevant to both! B^D
From: fasgnadh
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:47
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On 17/04/2012 8:41 PM, Helmut Wabnig wrote: > On 17/04/2012 7:53 PM, fasgnadh wrote: >> On 3/04/2012 8:47 AM, Fred Hall wrote: >>> On 3/04/2012 8:18 AM, fasgnadh wrote: >>>> raven1 contradicts his latest LIE by debating me!!! (Poorly! ;-): >>>> >>>> "And here's the *other* reason why no one will debate Fasgnadh..." >>>> >>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHA >>>> >>>> Atheist 'arguments' are nothing but LIES and ad hom abuse! B^p >>>> >>>> They stop debating me when I point that out, in detail, >>>> and they Snip and RUN AWAY! B^] >>> >> > Because you are >> >> The dominant Alpha Male. B^] >> >>>>> On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote: >>>>>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, microm2011@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent >>>>>>> people's beliefs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > Stop right there. "Atheism" doesn't do anything. >>>> >>>> Bullshit you lying atheist stooge, you have ALREADY confessed >>>> the REALITY of atheist states, and they slaughtered MILLIONS: 8^o >>>> >>>> # From: raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> >>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism >>>> # Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir >>>> # and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D >>>> # Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500 >>>> # Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7g4tep9k42rdjlgrr2@4ax.com> >>>> # >>>> # >>>> # > raven1 wrote: >>>> # > >>>> # >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's, >>>> >>>> Every atheist regime in history has been a totalitarian tyranny >>>> torturing, terrorising and killing over 80,000,000 people in a >>>> brief period of seven decades before they CATASTROPHICALLY >>>> collapsed and religious freedoms were restored! >>>> >>>> > Atheists do. >>>> >>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAA >>>> >>>> How asinine do lying atheists think people are: >>>> >>>> "Nazism doesn't do anything, Nazis do" pfffft! >>>> >>>> Atheists, acting together, implement atheist suppression of religion and >>>> persecution of believers.. they did so in EVERY ATHEIST >>>> STATE EVER TO EXIST!!!! >>>> >>>> Like Nazis, THEY WILL NEVER BE GIVEN ANOTHER SHOT AT IT! B^[ >>>> >>>> Game, Set, ..MATCH! B^] >>>> >>>> > Most atheists, BTW, would be happy to ignore religion as >>>> > long as it isn't shoved in our faces. >>>> >>>> What complete bullshit, atheists have the SAME rights and freedoms >>>> as theists in the modern, free, open, tolerant, progressive secular >>>> democracies created, in EVERY INSTANCE, by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS >>>> societies.. it is in the ATHEIST TYRANNIES where theists have >>>> not just the atheist attitudes and beliefs but the Black Boot ot >>>> terror, torture and mass murder, 'shoved in their face" >>>> >>>> All you wining little atheists bitches have to moan about endlessly >>>> in alt.atheism is having friends relatives and the wider society >>>> celebrate Christmas, which you rabid Dogs PISS ON every year and >>>> while you HYPOCRITES whine if a few fundies 'threaten'(sic) you with >>>> with an afterlife (which you don't believe in) in Hell (which you >>>> don't believe in) , while your violent, psychopathic hate filled inciter >>>> of slaughter, Warlord(sic) Steve makes DEATH THREATS: 8^o >>>> >>>> # From: Steve Knight <sknight51@cox.net> >>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism >>>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ >>>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1e4jbmlsqebu9j9b0a@4ax.com> >>>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700 >>>> # >>>> # We kill theists and shit down their throats >>>> # >>>> # Warlord Steve >>>> # BAAWA >>>> >>>> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?" >>>> - Lenin, 1st Atheist State leader, Militant Atheist role model. >>>> >>>> Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE of every >>>> Muslim man woman and child, just for believing in something >>>> the Atheist thugs want to prohibit again, freedom of thought and belief; >>>> >>>> # From: Steve Knight <sknight51@cox.net> >>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam >>>> # Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all >>>> # Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv57fjcg60tufoa47pf@4ax.com> >>>> # Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800 >>>> # >>>> # On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina" >>>> # <blondes_gaulloises@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> # >>>> # >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all >>>> # >>>> # It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth. >>>> # The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better. >>>> # >>>> # Warlord Steve >>>> # BAAWA >>>> >>>> That is no Idle threat, as the slaughter at Oikos University, a >>>> religious college offering studies in theology, music, and nursing >>>> and the PREVIOUS atheist mass murders in EVERY atheist regime in history >>>> PROVES: >>>> >>>> >>>> # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004 >>>> # >>>> # "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism >>>> # by a government, typically by active suppression of >>>> # religious freedom and practice." >>>> # - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR: >>>> # Characteristics and Consequences, >>>> # David Kowalewski, >>>> # Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441, >>>> # >>>> # >>>> # "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia�s Buddhist religion: >>>> # monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of >>>> # Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing >>>> # other religious sentiments were often killed. >>>> # ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations >>>> # and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked >>>> # and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or >>>> # starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals >>>> # prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state >>>> # instead of the family. >>>> # >>>> # About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population, >>>> # were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot�s regime." >>>> # - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html >>>> # >>>> # The Cambodian Genocide: >>>> http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> # >>>> # "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks, >>>> # regarded by the regime as social parasites, >>>> # were defrocked and forced into labor brigades. >>>> # Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were >>>> # destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails. >>>> # Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into >>>> # rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying >>>> # or expressing religious sentiments in other ways >>>> # were often killed. >>>> # >>>> # The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most >>>> # persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of >>>> # Phnom Penh was completely razed. >>>> # >>>> # The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they >>>> # regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed. >>>> # Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed." >>>> # - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm >>>> # >>>> # "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed >>>> # because of their religion." >>>> # >>>> http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/CANDEMIELDA/44camboyano.jpg >>>> >>>> # >>>> # >>>> # "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth." >>>> # - Daniel Peris, >>>> # "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless" >>>> # Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853 >>>> # >>>> # >>>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist >>>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China, >>>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea, >>>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also >>>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion. >>>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland. >>>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104 >>>> # >>>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an >>>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology. >>>> >>>> >>>> That is just a tiny part of the slaughters carried out by atheists, >>>> running atheist states in the name of atheism.. and the ONLY >>>> excuse these disgusting apologists for atheist crimes against humanity >>>> is the "No True Atheist Fallacy"!!!!!!!! >>>> >>>> What filthy moral defectives they are! >>>> >>>> # The No True Atheist(Scotsman) Fallacy >>>> # >>>> # "Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with >>>> # his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about >>>> # how the "Brighton Sex Maniac Strikes Again." Hamish is >>>> # shocked and declares that "No Scotsman would do such >>>> # a thing." The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow >>>> # Morning Herald again and this time finds an article about >>>> # an Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton >>>> # sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that >>>> # Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this? >>>> # Not likely. This time he says, "No true Scotsman would do >>>> # such a thing." >>>> # �Antony Flew, Thinking About Thinking >>>> # >>>> # "Imagine Hashish McRavin1, an Atheist, sitting down with >>>> # his Godless Morning Pravda and seeing an article about >>>> # how the "Al Qaida terrorist Strikes Again." >>>> # Hashish is shocked and declares that "No Atheist would >>>> # do such a thing." The next day he sits down to read his >>>> # Godless Morning Pravda again and this time finds an >>>> # article about an Atheist State whose brutal actions >>>> # terrorising torturing and killing millions make the AlQaida >>>> # terrorist seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that >>>> # McRavin1 was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this? >>>> # Not likely. This time he says, >>>> # "No true Atheist would do such a thing." >>>> � Fasgnadh, Thinking About Atheist lack of Thinking >>>> >>>> >>>> Just for the historical record, (you know, the EVIDENCE supplied >>>> by REALITY, not the IMAGINATION of these atheist LIARS), there >>>> has never been an atheist state that was a secular democracy. >>>> EVERY atheist state has been a totalitarian tyranny. >>>> >>>> Raven1 is on record admitting (after I presented incontrovertible PROOF) >>>> the reality of atheist states; >>>> >>>> # From: raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> >>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism >>>> # Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir >>>> # and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D >>>> # Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500 >>>> # Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7g4tep9k42rdjlgrr2@4ax.com> >>>> # >>>> # >>>> # > raven1 wrote: >>>> # > >>>> # >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's, >>>> >>>> Implementing the FORCED INDOCTRINATION of Children in schools! >>>> >>>> You can't brainwash kids with atheism unless atheism >>>> has AT LEAST ONE IDEA, true or FALSE. And everyone in >>>> these ATHEIST STATES suffers indoctrination with the propaganda >>>> of atheist ideology. >>>> >>>> All the secular states have been created and sustained by >>>> MAJORITY RELIGIOUS societies, as Ravin1 has conceded: >>>> >>>> >>>> # From: raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> >>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism >>>> # Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir and Kelsey >>>> Bjarnyard? B^D >>>> # Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500 >>>> # Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7g4tep9k42rdjlgrr2@4ax.com> >>>> # >>>> # There has never been a "Great, Enduring Atheist Civilization" >>>> >>>> >>>> If course, atheists hate the facts, they prefer to believe >>>> their man-made FANTASIES. >>>> >>>> The True Atheist States are the ones we find in REALITY, murderous >>>> tyrannies and catastrophic failures; >>>> >>>> >>>> >> and atheism is not science, >>>> >> it's an ideology with one basic idea which in >>>>>> the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist >>>>>> regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any >>>>>> religion. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > No, it isn't. Marxism-Leninism is an ideology. >>>> >>>> So is Atheism, as the >>>> >>>> >>>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism." >>>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) >>>> >>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism." >>>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) >>>> >>>> What do you think Pravda, the indoctrination of children >>>> in schools, the propaganda carried out by the League of >>>> Militant Godless and the relentless persecution of Believers >>>> by every agency of the Atheist State was doing.. holding >>>> hands and singing Kumbaya at Xmas!?!!!!! pffft!! >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Militant_Atheists >>>> >>>> The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under >>>> the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of >>>> every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda >>>> and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[ >>>> >>>> �We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen. >>>> WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.� >>>> -Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper >>>> >>>> �Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth, >>>> and God from Heaven!� (early Soviet slogan) >>>> >>>> "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth." >>>> - Daniel Peris, >>>> "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless" >>>> Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853 >>>> >>>> "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden" >>>> >>>> "Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested. >>>> In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over >>>> 3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks. >>>> Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water >>>> in winter until they turned to ice-pillars." >>>> >>>> - John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State >>>> (Boston: Little Brown, 1953) >>>> >>>> < mindless ad hom abuse deleted as IRRELEVANT> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> But both sides have went to far... >>>>>> >>>>>> Exactly, the extremes of religious theocracies (fortunately >>>>>> no longer the norm, as majority religious societies around the world >>>>>> have evolved free, open, tolerant, progressive, rights-based secular >>>>>> democracies (something no atheist state ever managed to do). >>>>>> >>>>>>> The extremes need to lose on both sides. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Exactly, Religious civilisations have progressively muted their >>>>>> extremes (the modern secular democracies created by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS >>>>>> societies are far superior to any religious society of the ancient or >>>>>> medieval times) and the Atheist regimes have reduced their extremes by >>>>>> collapsing catastrophically, leaving only a tiny remnant of weak, >>>>>> ineffectual, irrational atheist drones, who are allowed to flog the >>>>>> dead horse of Fundamentalism as a minor public service to the rest >>>>>> of us >>>>>> (we let them delude themselves that they are slaying dragons, when >>>>>> fundamentalism is already defeated by the secularism the moderate >>>>>> religious majority installed to ENSURE freedom of thought and belief, >>>>>> including non-belief. ;-). >>>>>> >>>>>> [See Bukakke for an example of pathological Tilting at Windmills, >>>>>> a la Don Quixote! B^] >>> >> > a frothing loon >> >> But fun to mock and laugh at! >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch >> >>> who posts evidence that contradicts your ludicrous claims? >> >> No one. B^] >> >> Thanks for pointing that out! --------- >> >> The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently >> launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and >> no atheists are interested in talking about it, >> including all the ones who eagerly embraced Dawkin's >> even more enthusiastic endorsement of atheist Gods he claims >> 'came into being'(sic) >> >> From his book Launch: >> >> "A few years ago it struck me that there is a resource >> that is a provider of Wisdom, and consolation, >> and an ethical framework, and it's rather fascinating and >> has dominated the mental landscape of human beings for thousands of years >> I'm thinking, of course, of religion. >> >> And the problem is, I'm an atheist." >> >> Yes, that's certainly a problem for any atheist! B^D >> >> or for anyone living in any of the atheist regimes they ran! B^[ >> >> "Not just a bit of an atheist, I really am an atheist." >> >> You make it sound like you expect people not to believe atheists! >> >> B^D >> >> "So, this doesn't, in a way, make me an ideal cantidate to write >> about religion, but at some point it did strike me that religions >> cannot be, in the words of Christopher Hitchins, "the source of >> the poison of everything", it's implausible, they've been around >> for thousands of years, they reflect the collaborative intelligences >> and sensitivities of millions of people and the idea that everything >> to do with them is false and wicked just didn't start to stand up to >> the scrutiny I applied to it, as I thought more about the subject. >> >> So, that's really the fruit of my thinking" >> >> >> That religion is really the source of so so many good and useful >> contributions to civilisation that Hitchin's malicious lies just >> don't stand up.. 8^o and as atheism is devoid of anything >> worthwhile itself, it needs to STEAL some of the many great ideas >> religion has to offer: >> >> >> " my new book,Religion for Atheists is a deliberate attempt >> to look at a number of areas where I believe that religions >> have things to offer for non-believers" >> >> Sure, Truth, Love, Compassion, Justice, Sincerity, Charity, >> Mercy, Courage, Integrity.. >> all the virtues atheism lacks, and doesn't even understand, all >> the spiritual values that atheists reject completely... >> >> >> # From: Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> >> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,alt.agnosticism >> # Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:38:16 -0800 (PST) >> # Message-ID: <bfcf3a9d-9711-449a-b126-3a1c60146182@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> >> # >> # You can keep your spiritual values. >> # I'll piss on them and pass on them. >> # >> # Budikka >> >> >> >> " ..and perhaps believers know about these things already, >> but for non-believers I wanted to look at that." >> >> "It strikes me that at the moment the world is really divided into >> believers and non-believers and the debate has become at times very >> fierce, there are people, some of whom live in North Oxford who >> have suggested not only that religion is unbelievable but also >> that it's ridiculous, and that people who believe in anything are >> simpletons, maniacs .. people who must be lectured at, to remove >> the folly of their intellectual errors." >> >> >> We all know the "person from North Oxford" he's criticising for >> being such an arrogant, rabid demagogue with extreme views, is >> Richard Dawkins B^] >> >> "That's not really my approach, I think such an approach is sterile, >> I don't think one makes progress" >> >> True, Dawkins extreme militancy and all the money spent on Bus >> ad lies to proselytise for new atheist converts never worked! >> >> "It doesn't strike me that this is really a productive way >> to go forward." >> >> Mate, I have been telling the dimwitted Dawkinite Drones that >> for YEARS now! But they are completely blind to reason! B^D >> >> " How do you live a good life outside of a religious structure? >> >> Well that's silly, when the good life you want to emulate >> exists WITHIN that moral framework and claims that the SPIRITUAL >> values are what brings life to the attempts at self-transformation! >> >> It's like you want the Light from a lightbulb, using only >> the physical MATTER, not invisible, electromagnetic ENERGY! B^D >> >> It's been tried in EVERY atheist state and failed! B^] >> >> How can these atheist 'thinkers' be so dumb? >> >> >> "This is THE question facing modern society, and we haven't >> necessarily answered it that well." > > That is the question you should have asked your father I did, he said atheists were stupid because they chose not to see reality, ....that and the inbreeding. > Why No one else would pollute the gene pool by allowing atheists to swim in it. B^) > sooo dumb That's why atheists ahve never built a single decent democracy, let alone the great and enduring Civilisations the Religions have inspired! > >> You atheists have NEVER answered it, B^D but the majority >> religious societies that you want to emulate clearly have! B^] >> >> "I think it's a legitimate question and my book is an >> attempt to answer that question." >> >> Sure, the hilarious part is that you think atheism needs >> to copy religion ...because it HAS the answer already!!!! >> >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!! >> >> Just what Dawkins, Bukakke, Vurgil and all the other >> ex-atheist believers are trying to do! ;-) >> >> Except, THEY are copying the BELIEFs in Supernatural Beings, >> i.e. they are FABRICATING GODS to WORSHIP! (Just >> like every atheist tyranny tried to do with political cultism ;-) >> >> Whereas De Botton wants to steal the PRAXIS of religion: B^D >> >> "My starting point is to say that we should learn to STEAL from >> religions." >> >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAA! >> >> Priceless! The starting point for Atheist 'philosophy' is >> that having no ideas of their own the unoriginal atheists >> need to pinch the ideas of the, more successful, religious! >> >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA >> >> >> >> >> "you know some people have accused me of advocating a >> 'pick and mix'approach to religions, and I say you know what? >> you're absolutely right, that's completely what I'm doing, >> a pick and mix approach. >> >> Some people have said 'religion's are not a buffet, from which >> you can go round choosing the best bits', and my answer is yes they are. >> And that's precidsely what I'm doing. So i've taken my plate, >> and I've gone round the different faiths, and I've done precisely that." >> >> - Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists >> The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012 >> >> >> http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm >> >> --------- >> >> alt.atheism FAQ: >> >> http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source >> >> >> >> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism." >> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) >> >> "We must combat religion" >> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) >> >> �Down with religion and long live atheism; >> the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!� >> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) >> >> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism." >> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) >> >> >> >> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest >> >> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest >> >> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest >> >> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest >> >> >> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?" >> - Lenin >> >> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest >> >> http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
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Subject: Re: Extremism for Science and Religion.. atheism doesn't even rate
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