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Article #7018Re: 2/1 EXPERIMENT AND THE TWIN PARADOX
From: Androcles
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:39
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:39
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"Strich.9" <strich.9993@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 8, 10:32 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> How Einstein could have introduced the 2/1 experiment performed by the
> traveller:
>
> http://www.bartleby.com/173/23.html
> Albert Einstein: "An observer who is sitting eccentrically on the disc
> K' is sensible of a force which acts outwards in a radial direction,
> and which would be interpreted as an effect of inertia (centrifugal
> force) by an observer who was at rest with respect to the original
> reference-body K. But the observer on the disc may regard his disc as
> a reference-body which is �at rest�; on the basis of the general
> principle of relativity he is justified in doing this. The force
> acting on himself, and in fact on all other bodies which are at rest
> relative to the disc, he regards as the effect of a gravitational
> field."
>
> By increasing the diameter of the disk while keeping the linear speed
> of the periphery constant, Einstein could have reduced the
> "gravitational field" to zero: so the rotating observer (sitting
> eccentrically on the periphery of the disc K') becomes virtually
> inertial. Then the rotating observer performs the 2/1 experiment and,
> in accordance with Einstein's 1905 false light postulate, sees his own
> two clocks fixed on the periphery running fast and non-rotating clocks
> located outside the disk but very close to the rotating periphery
> running slow. This is in contradiction with Einstein's official result
> (rotating clocks run slow, clocks at rest run fast) and in a world
> different from Einstein zombie world would be called REDUCTIO AD
> ABSURDUM.
>
The fallacy is obvious. The stay at home twin is moving with respect
to the travelling observer. Thus the stay at home twin is aging less.
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And that is the paradox...
"Prominent theoretical physicists were therefore more inclined to reject the
principle of relativity, in spite of the fact that no empirical data had
been found which were contradictory to this principle."
Translation:
"Look at me, I'm a prominent theoretical dork who argues for
schoolchildren."
"THERE is hardly a simpler law in physics than that according to which light
is propagated in empty space."
(Except the principle of relativity, an axiom.)
Every child at school knows, or believes he knows, that this propagation
takes place in straight lines with a velocity c = 300,000 km./sec.
Except that children do not know this, they are taught to believe it along
with Santa Claus.
http://www.bartleby.com/173/7.html
Einstein's crap is nothing but persuasive rhetoric...
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[As I said, either the whole physics community is stupid not to see
this, or there is an undercurrent of suppression.
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So they are stupid...
Preposterous? During the time of Galileo, the Ptolemaic system was
propped up. While most priests may have been stupid, there are
probably some who preferred the Ptolemaic system for its
GEOcentricity, whatever science may say. Currently there may be not a
few who prefer SR/GR whatever purp[ose it may serve their faith.]
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