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Re: CLIMATE-GATE, RELATIVITY-GATE, ENTROPY-GATE

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:22
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/03/10/2010-03-10_cerns_large_hadron_collider_worlds_largest_atomsmasher_needs_to_be_shut_down_for.html
"Scientists have made a major discovery using the Large Hadron
Collider, the world's largest atom-smasher, a $5 billion feat of
engineering built to re-create conditions in the universe just after
the big bang:

That it needs to be shut down for repairs."

Pentcho Valev wrote:

COLLIDER-GATE:

http://www.trinitynews.ie/index.php/features/features/671-could-it-be-that-the-large-hadron-collider-is-being-clock-blocked
"The alternative explanation for the series of unfortunate events that
have befallen the LHC is hardly less bizarre. Two otherwise respected
physicists are now claiming that the much hypothesized Higgs Boson
particle might have a "backward causation" effect to stop itself being
discovered. In other words, the particle does not wish to be created,
or its creation would have such cataclysmic results that the actual
universe itself does not wish for it to be created. Thus, at the
moment that it is created in the future, forces travel back in time to
sabotage the collider before it gets the chance to be made. In pop
culture terms, this is basically what happens in Back to the Future,
when Marty McFly travels back in time and accidentally erases his
future self by stopping his parents from falling in love. (...) The
only problem is that the future has cursed the project. The hypothesis
seems so bizarre as to be laughable, but for the fact that it is
supported by two leading physicists, Holger Bech Nielsen, of the Niels
Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, and Masao Ninomiya of the Yukawa
Institute for Theoretical Physics in Kyoto, Japan. They have
postulated this idea over the last two years, publishing it in a
series of scientific papers with titles such as "Test of Effect From
Future in Large Hadron Collider: a Proposal". (...) But perhaps we
should not mock these theories. After all, Einstein himself wrote,
"for those of us who believe in physics, this separation between past,
present and future is only an illusion"."

http://consideronline.org/2010/03/10/the-large-hadron-collider-is-still-a-fantastic-waste-of-money/
"The Large Hadron Collider Is Still a Fantastic Waste of Money...."The
Large Hadron Collider (LHC) must close at the end of 2011 for up to a
year to address design issues, according to an LHC director. Dr Steve
Myers told BBC News the faults will delay the machine reaching its
full potential for two years." Basically, the LHC is still probably an
egregiously bad investment. Dr. Myers does caution that the LHC is
"its own prototype," and while its shutdowns get huge press coverage,
"you don't hear about the thousands or hundreds of thousands of other
areas that have gone incredibly well." Fair enough. But these
shutdowns are still hugely expensive, and they push any benefits the
LHC may yield to humankind back into an increasingly distant future.
The scientists at CERN have yet to convince me that the LHC is a good
idea."

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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