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Article #7085Re: The speed of gravity revisited
From: hanson
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:31
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:31
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"Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message news:DwBEk.17336$a24.2829@newsfe17.ams2... > Pentcho Valev wrotes >>> [Valev]: Does the speed of light vary with the frequency, in accordance >>> with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2), or is it the wavelength >>> that >>> varies with the frequency (as half of today's Einsteinians claim)? > "Tom Van Flandern" <tomvf@metaresearch.org> wrote: >> When the time coordinate is the proper time of the observer, the speed >> of light is invariant by construction. When coordinate time is used >> instead, the speed of light slows in a stronger potential field. For >> example, radar beams slow when passing the Sun in any analysis using >> barycentric coordinate time. This is called the "Shapiro effect". >> Pentcho Valev writes >>> If Einstein's 1911 equation is correct, then perhaps light >>> leaves the gravitational field of the emitting body, continues its >>> journey and in the end reaches the observer having a reduced speed all >>> along? >> "Tom Van Flandern" <tomvf@metaresearch.org> wrote: >> Basically, you are correct. But it does depend on what you are using >> as >> a clock or time coordinate, which is why the answer is not simply "yes" >> or >> "no". -|Tom|- >> "Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > Why is the Coriolis effect now called the Shapiro effect? > http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/gifs/coriolis.mov > hanson wrote: Andro, even if your facts underlying your question are only remotely correct or acceptable, then what you have sensed by it, is the exhibition of the well know game called: *** Plagiarize and take the Credit ***, of which its most well known deja-vue is: "Why is Hilbert Physics now called Einstein Relativity"? > 'Oye-weh!": -- "Trust me!" -- "Go Figure!".... ahahaha.. So long, sucker!... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
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