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Article #7087Re: The speed of gravity revisited
From: hanson
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:02
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:02
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Truck Driver "Androcles"
<Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics>
cranked himself in his mist of Gin.... ahahahahaha....
>
wrote in message news:LWSEk.33662$v97.7058@newsfe23.ams2...
>
> "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
> news:5%REk.102$P5.74@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>>
>> "Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
>> news:DwBEk.17336$a24.2829@newsfe17.ams2...
>>>
>> Pentcho Valev wrotes
>>>>> [Valev]: Does the speed of light vary with the frequency, in
>>>>> accordance
>>>>> with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2), or is it the wavelength
>>>>> that
>>>>> varies with the frequency (as half of today's Einsteinians claim)?
>>>
>> "Tom Van Flandern" <tomvf@metaresearch.org> wrote:
>>>> When the time coordinate is the proper time of the observer, the speed
>>>> of light is invariant by construction. When coordinate time is used
>>>> instead, the speed of light slows in a stronger potential field. For
>>>> example, radar beams slow when passing the Sun in any analysis using
>>>> barycentric coordinate time. This is called the "Shapiro effect".
>>>>
>> Pentcho Valev writes
>>>>> If Einstein's 1911 equation is correct, then perhaps light
>>>>> leaves the gravitational field of the emitting body, continues its
>>>>> journey and in the end reaches the observer having a reduced speed all
>>>>> along?
>>>>
>> "Tom Van Flandern" <tomvf@metaresearch.org> wrote:
>>>> Basically, you are correct. But it does depend on what you are using
>>>> as
>>>> a clock or time coordinate, which is why the answer is not simply "yes"
>>>> or
>>>> "no". -|Tom|-
>>>>
>> "Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
>>> Why is the Coriolis effect now called the Shapiro effect?
>>> http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/gifs/coriolis.mov
>>>
>> hanson wrote:
>> Andro, even if
>
> In hypothetical sentences introduced by 'if' and referring to
> past time, where conditions are to be deemed 'unfulfilled',
> the verb will regularly be found in the pluperfect subjunctive,
> in both protasis and apodosis.
> -- Donet, "Principles of Elementary Latin Syntax"
> *************************************
> * Androcles 6, cha-cha-hanson 0 *
> *************************************
>
>
>> hanson wrote:
>> Andro, even if your facts underlying your question are
>> only remotely correct or acceptable,
>
> The Earth moving around the Sun is a fact only remotely correct or
> acceptable?
>
> "And yet it moves..." -- Galileo Galilei.
> Perhaps, like you, Van Flandern isn't aware of Copernicus and Coriolis.
>
> *************************************
> * Androcles 7, cha-cha-hanson 0 *
> *************************************
>
>
>> then what you have
>> sensed by it, is the exhibition of the well know game
>> called: *** Plagiarize and take the Credit ***, of which
>> its most well known deja-vue is:
>> "Why is Hilbert Physics now called Einstein Relativity"?
>>>
>> 'Oye-weh!": -- "Trust me!" -- "Go Figure!".... ahahaha..
>> So long, sucker!... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
>
> No, no, I'm the trucker, you are the bitter sucker.
>
> But to be fair,
> "Tom Van Flandern" <tomvf@metaresearch.org> wrote (of Pentcho Valev):
> Basically, you are correct.
>
> Basically, Van Flandern is correct, Valev is indeed basically correct.
> Shapiro is basically a dickhead.
>
>
> Valev: "perhaps light leaves the gravitational field of the emitting
> body,
> continues its journey and in the end reaches the observer having a reduced
> speed all along?"
> No, it had an increased journey, the speed never changed.
>
> *************************************
> * Androcles 8, cha-cha-hanson 0 *
> *************************************
>
>
ahahahaha... Hey, AndrAlky you were trucking too
far here. You over-counted in your haze of Gin...
ahahaha... Leave it at 7 and have another Jug'oGin
to make it 8 to 0... You may bring more laughs then.
So, long sucker.... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
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