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Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH

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From: Spaceman
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:49
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rustyjames777@gmail.com wrote:
> I see I believe they are not separate though so I guess that�s where
> we disagree but I have been wrong many times before and I�m sure it
> wont be the last but back to the question of me moving 100 feet away
> from you I believe space and time both play a role in you dilemma of
> moving only in a positive direction when someone moves a hundred feet
> from you and it has to be in a positive direction that�s debatable but
> I�m open for a clearer explanation so I can get on the same page.

Lets me first explain time:
Time is an abstract of a mass in motion.
The first abstracts of time came from abtracting the count
of days and nights from the motion of the Sun across the sky.
Time itself was "abstracted" from the physical motion of
the Sun back then.
Then we learned that the Sun was not really doing the motion
around the Earth and the Earth itself was spinning to cause that
"view" of the Sun moving over head.
But it still was an abstracted count of Earth spins wrt The Sun.
So the 24 hrs we know today was simply created from the single
revolution of Earth wrt The Sun by making an "abstracted ratio"
1 day = 24 hrs. (approximate of course)
We then cut the 24 hrs into smaller chunks to make timing things
more accurate.
Merely creating another "ratio" of time and still absracted.
All still abstracted from the original 1 revolution of the Earth.
Moving forward to the "now" we have still only abstracted
as many tiny motions of a mass that we can to make the measurement
of abstracted time even more accurate.
Still abstracted from the 1 revolution of Earth.
24 hrs
60 minutes per hour
60 seconds per minute
a bunch of tiny oscillations of an atom per second.
Time is 100% abstract and taken from the original 1 revolution
of Earth and counted by the atomic oscillations to make an accurate
timing method.

So time is abstract.
It has been abstract since it was invented by humans.
Time is a ratio of motion only.

Now to the motion part.
Any motion is a positive motion.
If you move back and forth, you are still adding motion distance
the entire time even if you end up in the same spot.
If you drive 1000 miles backwards, you still drove 1000
positive miles in path distance.
If you drive 27,000 miles and end up in the same spot
you still drove 27000 miles even though you are in the same
position you were to begin with.
All motion is positive motion in the physical dimensions
of 3D space and all timing of such motion is still merely
abstracted to "time" the movement in 3D space.

There are no "real" negatives.
Negative is simply a positive motion in the other direction.
And physically you can not take away more than is there.
Just as If I have 5 apples and try to take away 10,
I will not have - 5 apples.
I will have 0 and you will have 5 because that is all you could
take.
Physicals have no "real" negatives.
So therefore negative motion does not "physically" exist.
all motion is positive.
:)

-- 
James M Driscoll Jr
Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
Spaceman
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