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Article #7127Re: Brian Greene Tests Einstein Zombie World
From: Dirk Van de moortel
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:26
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:26
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Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Recently Brian Greene did test Einstein zombie world again but in a
> different way:
>
> http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/einstein07/einstein07_index.html
> BRIAN GREENE: "When it comes to Albert Einstein, his contributions are
> of such incredible magnitude that to get inside his head, and even for
> a moment to get a feel for what it would be like to see the world with
> such clarity and such insight, would be amazing. But if I was going to
> ask him one question, I would probably stick to one a little bit more
> down to earth, which isοΏ½he famously said that when it came to the
> general theory of relativity, in some sense he wasn't waiting for the
> data to show whether it was right or wrong; the theory was so
> beautiful that it just had to be right. And when the data came in and
> confirmed it, he claimed he wasn't even surprised, he in fact famously
> said that had the data turned out differently, he would have been
> sorry for the [dear lord?] because the theory was correct. That's how
> much faith he had in theory. So the question I have is, we, many of
> us, are working on Einstein's legacy in a sense, which is trying to
> find the unified theory that he looked for such a long time and never
> found, and we've been pursuing an approach called super string theory
> for many years now. And it is a completely theoretical undertaking. It
> is completely mathematical. It has yet to make contact with
> experimental data. I would like to ask Einstein what he would think of
> this approach to unification. Does he see the same kind of beauty, the
> same kind of elegance, the same kind of powerful incisive ideas in
> this framework to give him the confidence that he had in the general
> theory of relativity? It would be great to have a response from him in
> that regard, because we don't know when we're going to make contact
> with experimental data. I think most of us in the field absolutely
> will never have faith that this approach is right until we do make
> contact with data, but it would be great to have the insight of the
> master as to whether he feels that this smells right. That it is going
> in the right direction. Many of us think that it is, but it would be
> great to have his insight on that question as well."
>
> So Brian Greene challenges Einstein zombie world: General relativity
> is so beautiful that no experiment can refute it. How is that
> possible?
You really a retard, you know that?
"Pentcho makes a synopsis":
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PentchoSynopsis.html
Let's add this to the top of the list of differences ignored by Pentcho
Valev.... between
- a personal humorous musing and a common dogma,
- children's books and inspired essays,
- physicists and philosophers,
- coordinate time and proper time,
- invariance and constancy,
- special relativity and general relativity,
- teachers and hypnotists,
- laymen and zombies,
- a person being right and a theory being right,
- students and imbeciles,
- bad science and bad engineering,
- bad engineering and bad cost management,
- honing the foundations of a theory and fighting it,
- physics and linguistics,
- an article written in 1905 and a theory created in 1915,
- understanding a book and turning its pages,
- speed and relative (aka closing) speed,
- doing algebra and randomly writing down symbols,
- real life and a Usenet hobby group,
- receiving a detailed reply and being ignored,
- everyday concepts and scientific concepts in physics,
- the three things that smell like fish,
- inertial and non-inertial,
- speed and velocity,
- an article and a book,
- relativity and disguised ether addiction,
- algebra and analytic geometry,
- kneeling down and bending over,
- local and global,
- a sycophant in English and in French,
- a relation and an equation,
- massive and massless particles,
- a Mexican poncho and a Sears poncho,
- implication and equivalence,
- group velocity and phase velocity,
- science and religion
Thank you Pentcho.
Dirk Vdm
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