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On Jun 24, 9:31 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
wrote:
> PD wrote:
> > On Jun 23, 5:22 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> > wrote:
> >> PD wrote:
> >>> On Jun 23, 5:07 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> PD wrote:
> >>>>> On Jun 23, 4:35 pm, "Spaceman"
> >>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> >>>>>> PD wrote:
> >>>>>>> Then you imagine some "physicals" that resist measurement,
> >>>>>>> either direct or indirect.
>
> >>>>>> No,
> >>>>>> I merely do not wish to build a wall that might not be there.
> >>>>>> Sort of like the sound wall of long ago.
> >>>>>> Before the telegraph.
> >>>>>> sound was the fastest speed you could communicate sound
> >>>>>> to another person
> >>>>>> So you yelled your message and it traveled at the speed of sound
>
> >>>>>> Then the telegraph/telephone was invented and the communication
> >>>>>> of sound wall fell.
> >>>>>> We started to send sound.. faster than sound could travel..
>
> >>>>> Your understanding of the history of physics is abysmal.
> >>>>> There was NEVER a presumption that the speed of sound was the
> >>>>> fastest signal possible.
>
> >>>> LOL
> >>>> You truly are dillusional.
> >>>> Your knowledge of history itself is even worse than anything you
> >>>> come up with about relativity!
>
> >>> Then back up what you say with references. Bluster and cackling
> >>> doesn't do much for me.
>
> >> Why don't you show me one persons statement from back in those days
> >> that said, communication is possible at faster than sound speeds?
>
> > I said there were several. You said there were none. Here's one to get
> > you started.
> > Ole Roemer measured the speed of light (communication that has been
> > used since the dawn of time) in 1676.
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ole_Rømer
> > The telegraph was invented in 1809.
>
> Nice twist there PD.
> Now find a person that said, they can communicate with sound,
> faster than sound.

Why? You can't communicate with sound faster than the speed of sound.
Nor can you communicate with light faster than the speed of light.
Nor can you communicate with any signal faster than the speed of the
signal.
There is a limit to the speed of the signal that has to do with the
mass of the carrier of the signal and that is a physical law. There is
obviously a lower limit on the mass of 0, and the limit in signal
speed in this case is c.
Now, consider what this means.
In order to have a signal propagation speed faster than c, then you
either have to
- break the law that ties signal speed to mass of carrier
- find a carrier that has a mass less than zero
I presume your faith that technology can overcome this is based in
something other than religious fervor.

> finding the speed of light has nothing to do with what I stated.
> As I also stated. communicating at the speed of light
> was done with smoke signals long ago.
> I am talking about the limits of the communication speeds.
> We did not know the limits back then, and we can not know
> the physical limits (beyond our technology today)
> The only proof is "lack of proof" so far.
> and that is not proof at all.
>
> > You truly are one stubbornly ignorant guy!
>
> No,
> you truly are a rubber ruler worshipping ignorant guy.
> At least I know when "lack of proof" is not proof at all.
>
> --
> James M Driscoll Jr
> Spaceman