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Article #7169Re: Request for Review of a pre-print book titled, "Fundamental Nature of Matter and Fields"
From: paparios
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:42
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:42
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On 24 jun, 13:16, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > PD wrote: > > On Jun 24, 11:44 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> > > wrote: > >> PD wrote: > >>> Why? You can't communicate with sound faster than the speed of > >>> sound. Nor can you communicate with light faster than the speed of > >>> light. Nor can you communicate with any signal faster than the > >>> speed of the signal. > > >> Yippee! > >> He is grasping some of it finally. > >> Now all you will need to do is prove that something that > >> can move faster than the speed of light does not exist > > > Please reread what I wrote about the connection between the speed of > > the signal and the mass of the signal carrier. > > Please read what I have said about a different signal carrier > we have not detected yet. > sheesh! > > > What YOU need to prove is that there is a signal carrier that either > > has a mass less than zero or that can break the physical law tying the > > speed of the signal and the carrier mass. > > No, > To say it might be possible, needs no proof, > To say it is impossible needs the proof. > You need to show the proof of the impossibility. > So far, you have no proof. > and so far .. I have no proof either, but I have not > said it IS definitely possible. > You are lacking such "antiproof" you need. > I at least know no proof has been made either way. > :) This spaceman character, as others, can't think. If FTL is to be possible and, at the same time, it keeps causality, first it can't be through light, obviously. Secondly, if that FTL "information carrier" exists, then we would have detected it long ago. For instance when SN1987 exploded, we receive the neutrino flux and a few hours later the light signals informing us of the event. Why spaceman that doesn't mean neutrinos travel FTL?. No such FTL "information carrier" has been detected so far (the particular exploding star, Sanduleak -69° 202a, has been studied for years before the explosion). Miguel Rios
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