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Re: Request for Review of a pre-print book titled, "Fundamental Nature of Matter and Fields"

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From: GSS
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:39
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On Jun 24, 2:41 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 21, 2:23 am, GSS <gurcharn_san...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > In whichever physical theory causality and logic are sacrificed
> > through ad-hoc postulates, that theory must be either incomplete or
> > wrong!!
>
> That is bad science. The judgment of a theory is NOT based on the
> "logic" or "causality" of its postulates. Those kinds of presumptions
> are dangerous, because they are dependent on the structure of the
> human mind.

It is dangerous to underestimate the role and potential of human mind
and brain. All theories, models and infact all science is the product
of human mind. We are not 'gods' to produce any knowledge base without
using the structure of the human mind.

> The ONLY criteria for a successful theory are:
> a) mathematical self-consistency

Yes, the mathematics itself can be considered as a system of symbolic
logic.

> b) accurate prediction of experimental data, to the degree that there
> are no data that are inconsistent with the theory's predictions where
> the theory claims to apply.

Yes, accurate prediction of experimental data has to be ensured
through strict application of causality. As I mentioned earlier, "If a
sequence of events is causally connected, we may attribute such causal
connection between events to certain physical law of nature. If
appropriate logical explanation is available for the causal connection
between events then such  causal connection plus the appropriate
logical explanation is called a physical theory of the associated
phenomenon."

The causal connection between events or between inputs and outputs of
a physical system is ensured through appropriate mathematical model of
the physical theory. If it is incapable of making accurate predictions
of experimental data, then it is obviously a faulty model.

>
> You have simply the wrong metrics for the validity or strength of a
> theory.
>
> PD

You have obviously got it wrong.
A physical theory must be logically consistent and must incorporate
causality in its mathematical models to ensure accurate prediction of
experimental data.

GSS
http://www.geocities.com/gurcharn_sandhu/index.html
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Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,fr.sci.physique,alt.sci.physics.new-theories
Subject: Re: Request for Review of a pre-print book titled, "Fundamental 
 Nature of Matter and Fields"
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