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Article #7208Re: Request for Review of a pre-print book titled, "Fundamental Nature of Matter and Fields"
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:19
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:19
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On Jun 20, 11:58 am, John Kennaugh <J...@notworking.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > If only! Modern physics allows itself liberties whereby a theory can be > accepted with totally absurd causality. Take SR and Doppler shift. > Suppose you are stationary w.r.t a source 1 light year away. According > to SR light travelling w.r.t. you travels at c having separated from the > source at a speed of separation c. If you now change your speed so that > you are travelling away from the source at v the frequency of the light > you observe will be lower due to Doppler shift but according to SR the > light still travels at c w.r.t you. If c hasn't changed and the > frequency has, then the wavelength must have changed. What the maths is > saying is that in your new frame of reference the wavelength has changed > because the light is now separating from the source at c+v generating > longer wavelengths than previous. The problem with this is that your > change of speed has apparently caused a change in what is happening at > the source 1 light year away with no possible causal mechanism. What is > even more absurd is that the change has to be backdated to 1 light year > ago as there is no 1 year delay in the frequency changing. When I point > this out to a relativist I am told I am being silly and that one has > changed from a FoR where the light separates from the source at c - and > always did - to one where it separates from the source at c+v - and > always did. That is simply a description of the mathematics not of what > is physically happening. Physically one has to assume that when you > change speed you change from a universe where light separates from the > source at c to a parallel universe where it separates from the source at > c+v and always has done. REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM par excellence but, as you suggest, in Einstein zombie world the absurdities deduced from Divine Albert's Divine Theory damage the heretic who deduces them, not the Divine Theory. Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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