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Article #7235Re: CRIMINAL TOM ROBERTS CONFUSES SILLY VESSELIN PETKOV
From: Paul B. Andersen
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 10:47
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 10:47
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Dr. Henri Wilson wrote:
> Look, I've tried to explain this to relativists but they're too dumb to
> understand. You are more intelligent so can probably see what's going on. Read
> carefully.
>
> Consider you are on the ring and rotating with it at v.
> Next to you is another ring that is NOT rotating.
>
> At certain instant, you emit two pulses of light in opposite directions around
> the ring. You also place a mark on the nonrotating ring.
>
> What happens to the mark?
> Answer: it appears to move away from you at v.
> By the time the pulses return, the mark has moved a distance vt away.
>
> Of course YOU have no way of knowing that the mark represents the original
> position of the emission point or that you are rotating with a peripheral speed
> of v. You have every reason to believe that both pulses move away from you at c
> and travel the same distance, 2piR in the same time. You are therefore
> mystified by the fact that they are not in phase when they reunite.
>
> This is a perfect example of how the use of rotating frames can be misleading.
> In fact, the rays travel different distances EVEN IN THE ROTATING FRAME.
> AND their wavelengths are the same.
" MY wave is one in which the phase of the leading edge
is cycling as it moves."
- Henri Wilson -
--
Paul, still amused after all these years
http://home.c2i.net/pb_andersen/
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