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Article #7349Re: Einstein's energy formula E=mc^2 is WRONG!
From: Dirk Van de moortel
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:06
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:06
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"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1189249212.539943.238910@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
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> Moortel Moortel how about this:
>
> http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/ac686b4b365dee16?
> Pentcho Valev: "CAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT EXCEED 300000 km/s IN A
> GRAVITATIONAL FIELD?"
> Tom Roberts: "Sure, depending on the physical conditions of the
> measurement. It can also be less than "300000 km/s" (by which I assume
> you really mean the standard value for c). And this can happen even
> for an accelerated observer in a region without any significant
> gravitation (e.g. in Minkowski spacetime)."
>
> Pentcho Valev
We already have established that Pentcho Valev does not understand
and refuses to even try to understand the differences between:
- physicists and philosophers,
- coordinate time and proper time,
- invariance and constancy,
- special relativity and general relativity,
- teachers and hypnotists,
- laymen and zombies,
- a person being right and a theory being right,
- students and imbeciles,
- bad science and bad engineering,
- bad engineering and bad cost management,
- honing the foundations of a theory and fighting it,
- physics and linguistics,
- an article written in 1905 and a theory created in 1915,
- understanding a book and turning its pages,
- speed and relative (aka closing) speed,
- doing algebra and randomly writing down symbols,
- real life and a Usenet hobby group,
- receiving a detailed reply and being ignored,
- everyday concepts and scientific concepts in physics,
- the three things that smell like fish,
- inertial and non-inertial,
- speed and velocity,
- an article and a book,
- relativity and disguised ether addiction,
- algebra and analytic geometry,
- kneeling down and bending over,
- local and global,
- a sycophant in English and in French,
- a relation and an equation,
- massive and massless particles,
- a Mexican poncho and a Sears poncho,
- implication and equivalence,
- group velocity and phase velocity,
- science and religion
Exercise for the interested reader (by definition excluding Poncho):
Which differences are ignored in this specific message?
Dirk Vdm
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