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Re: Rest mass

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From: rick_sobie
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:30
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On Jul 21, 7:22 pm, rick_so...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > So what is this skin of the nucleus?
> > > Well foam is in a liquid, and as far as we can tell it is a liquid.
> > > And that is why, when it flat-lines, and the nucleus bubble collapses
> > > in super-cooled Bose-Einstein condensate, you can actually detect that
> > > momentum, of the slap, of the liquid, as the bubble collapses and the
> > > liquid slaps on the surrounding surfaces of the foam.
> > > And also the reason we think it is a fluid, is because all motion,
> > > through the quantum foam is fluid motion.
>
> > > Only flying saucers apparently can make 90 degree turns at high speed.
> > > Other things with mass, cannot do that.
> > > And since that is in the realm of the unproven, it might be because
> > > the laws of physics state, that anything with mass, in this physical
> > > universe, has to plow through the quantum foam. There is no way around
> > > that.
> > > You cannot mass cancel nothing.
> > > Nada.
> > > No way José Rodriguez.
> > > So the only explanation then for any of those sightings or stories, is
> > > that one, they are made up, some of them, and two, if there was
> > > anything like that seen, it was not made of atoms that had mass, but
> > > must have been made of light as in an illusion, or a mirage, or a
> > > projection of some kind.
> > > Unless you can somehow create a beam or a force field that can somehow
> > > move the quantum foam around without resistance, but there is no
> > > examples of that happening anywhere in the universe, and always, if
> > > you try to move the foam around it will just lock up and explode.
> > > If you move it too quickly.
> > > Like if you are in a spaceship traveling close to c, the second you
> > > hit c, it becomes a supersolid mass.
> > > Travel at a constant speed, and it is slipping past you with uniform
> > > motion as a superfluid and no problem, but accelerate, and suddenly
> > > your dark energy waves are pushing against each other (the wave front
> > > in front of it) and then against the foam, and then it will squish in
> > > itself, the foam and its its own little bubbles will get squashed a
> > > bit, and when you accelerate at c, one wall of the bubble hits the
> > > opposite side as it is squished in completely and well you stop dead
> > > in your tracks as it locks up in that area.
>
> > > If you had sufficient force to just blow through that, you would get a
> > > supernova explosion.
>
> > > A nuclear explosion is when the nucleus pressure is overcome, and a
> > > supernova when you overcome the pressure of the quantum foam.
> > > Its like a Doppler effect.
> > > Just like going through the sound barrier, then the light barrier and
> > > then the quantum barrier.
>
> > That much we know. But the rest is still a mystery as to what is
> > inside the nucleus, inside the quantum foam?
> > It acts like air, and the foam acts like air bubbles in a superfluid,
> > but it can't be air can it?
> > And the size of one bubble is Plank Length.
> > And that is the smallest discreet anything we know of.
> > When its not that size, it doesn't exist.
> > Well we can't detect it, we say it is not in the real universe.
> > Is it possible that the bubbles are not uniform in size at Plank
> > Length?
> > Well we only have data to show they are that size.
> > And for instance the size of a nucleus of one element will be the same
> > here as on Alpha Centauri.
> > But getting back to mass, and particle physicists like particles to be
> > little things, not wave packets, and so they will say that these
> > things have mass, when in fact it is not their mass, but rather
> > borrowed mass, just as a water wave slaps a wall, that mass belongs to
> > the water molecules, not the wave.
> > And win the two slit experiment,
> > make a kids pool, place bowling pins on Styrofoam blocks, now generate
> > lots of waves in the pool, and when one pin falls over, say look,
> > there is an electron.
> > Yes it will fringe if the waves are coming from one direction the
> > principle is the same.
> > Send waves through a cathode ray tube, and when the right level of
> > energy hits the screen, a photon will be released.
> > Photons are released by a certain level of energy equal to one
> > electron.
> > Wave particle duality.
> > So where is the mass?
> > Does the wave toppling that bowling pin, have its own mass?
> > It is using the mass of the water molecules.
> > So in reality, the only things with rest mass, are the nulceus of any
> > atom, and the quantum foam itself.
> > And where it comes from, is the skin on those bubbles.
> > The big suck as the universe expands into the void. The skin on those
> > bubbles resists that expansion.
> > And notice how it is working.
> > Form one point in space-time outward.
> > Which is how mass works.
> > That is why it works.
> > Because it is an outward motion. Not a lateral motion.
> > That outward motion resists lateral movement.
> > It is already moving outward and with force and resisting that force.
> > Its like a gyroscopic effect.
> > But not from the spinning, but because it wants to stay put right
> > where it is and expand.
> > That would be the path of least resistance.
>
> In actuality, a photon is not released. It is created.
> When you get sufficient energy, of wave reactions, spherical dark
> energy waves that permeate space and are created by the nucleus bubble
> trying to expand.
> It sends out spherical waves of dark energy in the quantum foam.
> EM waves. Traveling at c, cresting at the shell radius.
> And when those waves combine and interact, adding up and canceling out
> they create the covalent bond of atoms, but when you get a certain
> level of energy, and waves interact, they will create a transverse
> wave. It will shoot out sideways, and you can even see it, and you can
> call that a photon, at least one wave of that stretch of waves, you
> can call a photon, and when it hits your eye, guess what? It has
> sufficient force, to register in your brain as visible light.
> If it didn't, it wouldn't be a visible photon it would be just another
> level of em wave radiation in the spectrum.
> There are waves hitting your eyes right now that you can't see.
> Ultraviolet and all manner of waves.
> But the screen of your detector is set up, so that a certain value of
> energy wave will create that transverse wave, and it will hit your
> eye, and you will say, look, there is an electron, that just hit the
> detector, and released a photon, as if it had a whole bunch of them in
> its pocket and let one go or something.

So here is an experiment you can do...
take a laser pointer and point it at a chalkboard and wiggle it like
mad.
No resistance to your movement.
Now take a pointing stick and wave it like mad.
Fell the momentum in the stick resisting movement.
Light has no mass, the atoms in the stick have mass.
Hook it up to a machine.
A wiggle machine.
The light will end up looking like it is covering an area, and still
no resistance.
The stick will snap from the pressure.
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Subject: Re: Rest mass
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