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Article #7363Re: Rest mass
From: rick_sobie
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:30
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:30
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On Jul 21, 7:22 pm, rick_so...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > So what is this skin of the nucleus? > > > Well foam is in a liquid, and as far as we can tell it is a liquid. > > > And that is why, when it flat-lines, and the nucleus bubble collapses > > > in super-cooled Bose-Einstein condensate, you can actually detect that > > > momentum, of the slap, of the liquid, as the bubble collapses and the > > > liquid slaps on the surrounding surfaces of the foam. > > > And also the reason we think it is a fluid, is because all motion, > > > through the quantum foam is fluid motion. > > > > Only flying saucers apparently can make 90 degree turns at high speed. > > > Other things with mass, cannot do that. > > > And since that is in the realm of the unproven, it might be because > > > the laws of physics state, that anything with mass, in this physical > > > universe, has to plow through the quantum foam. There is no way around > > > that. > > > You cannot mass cancel nothing. > > > Nada. > > > No way José Rodriguez. > > > So the only explanation then for any of those sightings or stories, is > > > that one, they are made up, some of them, and two, if there was > > > anything like that seen, it was not made of atoms that had mass, but > > > must have been made of light as in an illusion, or a mirage, or a > > > projection of some kind. > > > Unless you can somehow create a beam or a force field that can somehow > > > move the quantum foam around without resistance, but there is no > > > examples of that happening anywhere in the universe, and always, if > > > you try to move the foam around it will just lock up and explode. > > > If you move it too quickly. > > > Like if you are in a spaceship traveling close to c, the second you > > > hit c, it becomes a supersolid mass. > > > Travel at a constant speed, and it is slipping past you with uniform > > > motion as a superfluid and no problem, but accelerate, and suddenly > > > your dark energy waves are pushing against each other (the wave front > > > in front of it) and then against the foam, and then it will squish in > > > itself, the foam and its its own little bubbles will get squashed a > > > bit, and when you accelerate at c, one wall of the bubble hits the > > > opposite side as it is squished in completely and well you stop dead > > > in your tracks as it locks up in that area. > > > > If you had sufficient force to just blow through that, you would get a > > > supernova explosion. > > > > A nuclear explosion is when the nucleus pressure is overcome, and a > > > supernova when you overcome the pressure of the quantum foam. > > > Its like a Doppler effect. > > > Just like going through the sound barrier, then the light barrier and > > > then the quantum barrier. > > > That much we know. But the rest is still a mystery as to what is > > inside the nucleus, inside the quantum foam? > > It acts like air, and the foam acts like air bubbles in a superfluid, > > but it can't be air can it? > > And the size of one bubble is Plank Length. > > And that is the smallest discreet anything we know of. > > When its not that size, it doesn't exist. > > Well we can't detect it, we say it is not in the real universe. > > Is it possible that the bubbles are not uniform in size at Plank > > Length? > > Well we only have data to show they are that size. > > And for instance the size of a nucleus of one element will be the same > > here as on Alpha Centauri. > > But getting back to mass, and particle physicists like particles to be > > little things, not wave packets, and so they will say that these > > things have mass, when in fact it is not their mass, but rather > > borrowed mass, just as a water wave slaps a wall, that mass belongs to > > the water molecules, not the wave. > > And win the two slit experiment, > > make a kids pool, place bowling pins on Styrofoam blocks, now generate > > lots of waves in the pool, and when one pin falls over, say look, > > there is an electron. > > Yes it will fringe if the waves are coming from one direction the > > principle is the same. > > Send waves through a cathode ray tube, and when the right level of > > energy hits the screen, a photon will be released. > > Photons are released by a certain level of energy equal to one > > electron. > > Wave particle duality. > > So where is the mass? > > Does the wave toppling that bowling pin, have its own mass? > > It is using the mass of the water molecules. > > So in reality, the only things with rest mass, are the nulceus of any > > atom, and the quantum foam itself. > > And where it comes from, is the skin on those bubbles. > > The big suck as the universe expands into the void. The skin on those > > bubbles resists that expansion. > > And notice how it is working. > > Form one point in space-time outward. > > Which is how mass works. > > That is why it works. > > Because it is an outward motion. Not a lateral motion. > > That outward motion resists lateral movement. > > It is already moving outward and with force and resisting that force. > > Its like a gyroscopic effect. > > But not from the spinning, but because it wants to stay put right > > where it is and expand. > > That would be the path of least resistance. > > In actuality, a photon is not released. It is created. > When you get sufficient energy, of wave reactions, spherical dark > energy waves that permeate space and are created by the nucleus bubble > trying to expand. > It sends out spherical waves of dark energy in the quantum foam. > EM waves. Traveling at c, cresting at the shell radius. > And when those waves combine and interact, adding up and canceling out > they create the covalent bond of atoms, but when you get a certain > level of energy, and waves interact, they will create a transverse > wave. It will shoot out sideways, and you can even see it, and you can > call that a photon, at least one wave of that stretch of waves, you > can call a photon, and when it hits your eye, guess what? It has > sufficient force, to register in your brain as visible light. > If it didn't, it wouldn't be a visible photon it would be just another > level of em wave radiation in the spectrum. > There are waves hitting your eyes right now that you can't see. > Ultraviolet and all manner of waves. > But the screen of your detector is set up, so that a certain value of > energy wave will create that transverse wave, and it will hit your > eye, and you will say, look, there is an electron, that just hit the > detector, and released a photon, as if it had a whole bunch of them in > its pocket and let one go or something. So here is an experiment you can do... take a laser pointer and point it at a chalkboard and wiggle it like mad. No resistance to your movement. Now take a pointing stick and wave it like mad. Fell the momentum in the stick resisting movement. Light has no mass, the atoms in the stick have mass. Hook it up to a machine. A wiggle machine. The light will end up looking like it is covering an area, and still no resistance. The stick will snap from the pressure.
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