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Re: Rest mass

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From: rick_sobie
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:45
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On Jul 21, 7:37 pm, rick_so...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 21, 7:30 pm, rick_so...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> > On Jul 21, 7:22 pm, rick_so...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> > > > > So what is this skin of the nucleus?
> > > > > Well foam is in a liquid, and as far as we can tell it is a liquid.
> > > > > And that is why, when it flat-lines, and the nucleus bubble collapses
> > > > > in super-cooled Bose-Einstein condensate, you can actually detect that
> > > > > momentum, of the slap, of the liquid, as the bubble collapses and the
> > > > > liquid slaps on the surrounding surfaces of the foam.
> > > > > And also the reason we think it is a fluid, is because all motion,
> > > > > through the quantum foam is fluid motion.
>
> > > > > Only flying saucers apparently can make 90 degree turns at high speed.
> > > > > Other things with mass, cannot do that.
> > > > > And since that is in the realm of the unproven, it might be because
> > > > > the laws of physics state, that anything with mass, in this physical
> > > > > universe, has to plow through the quantum foam. There is no way around
> > > > > that.
> > > > > You cannot mass cancel nothing.
> > > > > Nada.
> > > > > No way José Rodriguez.
> > > > > So the only explanation then for any of those sightings or stories, is
> > > > > that one, they are made up, some of them, and two, if there was
> > > > > anything like that seen, it was not made of atoms that had mass, but
> > > > > must have been made of light as in an illusion, or a mirage, or a
> > > > > projection of some kind.
> > > > > Unless you can somehow create a beam or a force field that can somehow
> > > > > move the quantum foam around without resistance, but there is no
> > > > > examples of that happening anywhere in the universe, and always, if
> > > > > you try to move the foam around it will just lock up and explode.
> > > > > If you move it too quickly.
> > > > > Like if you are in a spaceship traveling close to c, the second you
> > > > > hit c, it becomes a supersolid mass.
> > > > > Travel at a constant speed, and it is slipping past you with uniform
> > > > > motion as a superfluid and no problem, but accelerate, and suddenly
> > > > > your dark energy waves are pushing against each other (the wave front
> > > > > in front of it) and then against the foam, and then it will squish in
> > > > > itself, the foam and its its own little bubbles will get squashed a
> > > > > bit, and when you accelerate at c, one wall of the bubble hits the
> > > > > opposite side as it is squished in completely and well you stop dead
> > > > > in your tracks as it locks up in that area.
>
> > > > > If you had sufficient force to just blow through that, you would get a
> > > > > supernova explosion.
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> > > > > A nuclear explosion is when the nucleus pressure is overcome, and a
> > > > > supernova when you overcome the pressure of the quantum foam.
> > > > > Its like a Doppler effect.
> > > > > Just like going through the sound barrier, then the light barrier and
> > > > > then the quantum barrier.
>
> > > > That much we know. But the rest is still a mystery as to what is
> > > > inside the nucleus, inside the quantum foam?
> > > > It acts like air, and the foam acts like air bubbles in a superfluid,
> > > > but it can't be air can it?
> > > > And the size of one bubble is Plank Length.
> > > > And that is the smallest discreet anything we know of.
> > > > When its not that size, it doesn't exist.
> > > > Well we can't detect it, we say it is not in the real universe.
> > > > Is it possible that the bubbles are not uniform in size at Plank
> > > > Length?
> > > > Well we only have data to show they are that size.
> > > > And for instance the size of a nucleus of one element will be the same
> > > > here as on Alpha Centauri.
> > > > But getting back to mass, and particle physicists like particles to be
> > > > little things, not wave packets, and so they will say that these
> > > > things have mass, when in fact it is not their mass, but rather
> > > > borrowed mass, just as a water wave slaps a wall, that mass belongs to
> > > > the water molecules, not the wave.
> > > > And win the two slit experiment,
> > > > make a kids pool, place bowling pins on Styrofoam blocks, now generate
> > > > lots of waves in the pool, and when one pin falls over, say look,
> > > > there is an electron.
> > > > Yes it will fringe if the waves are coming from one direction the
> > > > principle is the same.
> > > > Send waves through a cathode ray tube, and when the right level of
> > > > energy hits the screen, a photon will be released.
> > > > Photons are released by a certain level of energy equal to one
> > > > electron.
> > > > Wave particle duality.
> > > > So where is the mass?
> > > > Does the wave toppling that bowling pin, have its own mass?
> > > > It is using the mass of the water molecules.
> > > > So in reality, the only things with rest mass, are the nulceus of any
> > > > atom, and the quantum foam itself.
> > > > And where it comes from, is the skin on those bubbles.
> > > > The big suck as the universe expands into the void. The skin on those
> > > > bubbles resists that expansion.
> > > > And notice how it is working.
> > > > Form one point in space-time outward.
> > > > Which is how mass works.
> > > > That is why it works.
> > > > Because it is an outward motion. Not a lateral motion.
> > > > That outward motion resists lateral movement.
> > > > It is already moving outward and with force and resisting that force.
> > > > Its like a gyroscopic effect.
> > > > But not from the spinning, but because it wants to stay put right
> > > > where it is and expand.
> > > > That would be the path of least resistance.
>
> > > In actuality, a photon is not released. It is created.
> > > When you get sufficient energy, of wave reactions, spherical dark
> > > energy waves that permeate space and are created by the nucleus bubble
> > > trying to expand.
> > > It sends out spherical waves of dark energy in the quantum foam.
> > > EM waves. Traveling at c, cresting at the shell radius.
> > > And when those waves combine and interact, adding up and canceling out
> > > they create the covalent bond of atoms, but when you get a certain
> > > level of energy, and waves interact, they will create a transverse
> > > wave. It will shoot out sideways, and you can even see it, and you can
> > > call that a photon, at least one wave of that stretch of waves, you
> > > can call a photon, and when it hits your eye, guess what? It has
> > > sufficient force, to register in your brain as visible light.
> > > If it didn't, it wouldn't be a visible photon it would be just another
> > > level of em wave radiation in the spectrum.
> > > There are waves hitting your eyes right now that you can't see.
> > > Ultraviolet and all manner of waves.
> > > But the screen of your detector is set up, so that a certain value of
> > > energy wave will create that transverse wave, and it will hit your
> > > eye, and you will say, look, there is an electron, that just hit the
> > > detector, and released a photon, as if it had a whole bunch of them in
> > > its pocket and let one go or something.
>
> > So here is an experiment you can do...
> > take a laser pointer and point it at a chalkboard and wiggle it like
> > mad.
> > No resistance to your movement.
> > Now take a pointing stick and wave it like mad.
> > Fell the momentum in the stick resisting movement.
> > Light has no mass, the atoms in the stick have mass.
> > Hook it up to a machine.
> > A wiggle machine.
> > The light will end up looking like it is covering an area, and still
> > no resistance.
> > The stick will snap from the pressure.
>
> So ok, I am not saying that it is impossible that an advanced alien
> race, couldn't some how bathe their ship, in that superfluid liquid,
> which would cause the quantum foam to always be displaced and never
> squished in by impacts from the wave fronts of the dark energy emitted
> by the atoms in the ship.
> That it might just slip past it somehow even at a high speed 90 degree
> turn.
> And I say that because if you happen to see one do that and claim that
> is what you saw, who am I to say that you are nuts, if you see it do
> that, see it land, then touch it, it is real and you burn your hand.
> I am just saying that there is no proof of that and it seems
> impossible according to our level of understanding.

And lastly, because of the experiments done in the last 5 or 7 years
regarding Bose-Einstein condensate, and how it acted as predicted
according to wave theory and in accordance with the quantum foam
theories, and the fact that we now have very good views into what
atoms and molecules look like, and can do a lot with lasers to them,
manipulating atoms etc, we have had to rethink the notion, that if you
were to just change the phase of molecules, you could slip them into a
parallel dimension in the multiverse.
It appears as if the stuff of the universe, that superfliud whatever
it is, is here to say, does not leave this universe and all atoms are
just bubbles in it.
Take information to a parallel universe that has its own liquid, then
recreate your bubbles,  you have teleported to a parallel universe.
That gigantic black hole explosion sort of tells us that nothing
escapes this universe.
And it was in the large, just the same as the Bosenova created in the
laboratory.
So from micro to macro, the principles were the same.
All predictable, and in accordance with standard theories.
Modern ones. Not the old fashioned theories.
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Subject: Re: Rest mass
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