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Re: Rest mass

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From: rick_sobie
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:28
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> > And I say that because if you happen to see one do that and claim that
> > is what you saw, who am I to say that you are nuts, if you see it do
> > that, see it land, then touch it, it is real and you burn your hand.
> > I am just saying that there is no proof of that and it seems
> > impossible according to our level of understanding.
>
> You see if you can see it? If you can see the ship, it is giving off
> waves isn't it?
> So light has no resistance in the foam, but dark energy waves, other
> waves in the spectrum, larger waves do add up and will push against
> the air molecules, and the skin, from the nuclei, of your ship, will
> press against the skin of the quantum foam bubbles.
> So if you bounce radar off it, then you assume it is solid.
> So then if radar is bouncing off it, why is the dark energy waves of
> the air molecules, which is just more em waves at a different energy,
> less energy but the same, not also bouncing off it, and if it does,
> then you have a mass problem.
>
> Again, take tow strong magnets, and hold like poles in proximity. That
> is what it feels like when these waves go against each other.
> Granted in a magnet the waves are aligned, but then you are feeling a
> small force there.
> Travel 6 thousand miles an hour in a several ton ship and do a 90.
> No living occupants in that ship.
> How could there be?
> Anything with mass has momentum.
> All that forward momentum, suddenly taking a 90?
> Well that is largely why scientists don't believe in flying saucers.

Could you transfer that momentum, from a forward direction, then take
a ninety, and just turn it, so the momentum is still there, but now
facing another direction?
I a very rapidly spinning disk, you might be able to.
And if, you inside of that ship, were not spinning, but an outer shell
was spinning, maybe you wouldn't be affected.
Or would you be?
Step on the gas with your windows up.
Do you feel that quantum foam pressing against you?
Of course you do.
Its everywhere and you are just going through it.
It is so small, that it permeates the universe.
Since inflation, the whole thing is foam.
So regardless of how your ship would handle the air resistance, you
have momentum relative to absolute space-time.
Yourself. Never mind the ship.
The earth drags a lot of it with it as it goes through space, as does
the moon and all other massive bodies, but small bodies feel the force
of accelerated mass in the form of G's.
So in your ship, how do escape the foam?
Is it a perfect vacuum? It can't be. Nothing can withstand that
pressure, even black holes explode.
So even in your flying saucer, you are traveling through foam.
Well what if the hull of your ship was solid nuclei like a neutron
star.
It would weigh as much as the earth then.
Its not as if you can just say well maybe our physics is not the right
physics it is the right physics and our current models, have been put
to the test and never failed even from the smallest imaginable test,
like measuring the momentum, of the skin, of a nucleus bubble, hitting
the quantum foam, after you drain it.
Predicted, proven, and in accordance with theory.
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Subject: Re: Rest mass
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