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On Jul 22, 12:54 am, rick_so...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > So the only possible thing would be the liquid between the foam
> > > > > > bubbles whatever it is. And right now I don't think we can detect it.
>
> > > > > Ok so there is the slight possibility, that the quantum foam of the
> > > > > condensate is not acting with friction against foam outside the
> > > > > condensate and transferring that friction to the foam in the
> > > > > condensate but instead, just the fact that the foam in the condensate
> > > > > has mass, like gyroscopic mass from its expanding, is resisting
> > > > > spinning with the entire condensate.
>
> > > > > But what on earth is it reacting with then, to give it that stay
> > > > > putness?
> > > > > When there would be nothing staying put in that scenario.
> > > > > It has to be relative to some stationary something, which is causing
> > > > > it to spin.
> > > > > You could say well its spooky action at a distance, but at this level
> > > > > there is no spooky action at a distance.
> > > > > Could it be waves then and not direct friction between quantum foam
> > > > > bubbles?
> > > > > What is weird is that it is in a lattice.
> > > > > That condensate is a gazillion times bigger than one quantum foam
> > > > > bubble. The foam is not spaced apart like that.
> > > > > So it has to be currents and pressure in the condensate spacing out
> > > > > the vortices into a loose lattice configuration.
> > > > > Maybe if you spun it at ultra high speed, it would form a gazillion
> > > > > vortices.
> > > > > Yes and then blow up.
>
> > > >http://tinyurl.com/2gap23
> > > > Of course. The quantum foam bubbles are expanding and sending out mini
> > > > spherical waves of dark energy, just like the nucleus does in an atom.
> > > > That results in the different patterns.
>
> > > > And from that link just above...
> > > > "The angular momentum of a single vortex has been measured, and found
> > > > to be of the order of Planck's constant per particle"
> > > > And Plank Length, is the size of one quantum foam bubble. So that
> > > > tells us where it is coming from.
>
> > > And yes if you want you can believe that they are granular pieces of
> > > rock of plank length emitting waves as if they were radioactive but
> > > your theory is going to break down as soon as you include the fact
> > > that the universe expanding and your little rocks are going to bunch
> > > up or get so far apart that matter can't form. And how does the
> > > inflationary period of the universe create your little bits of sand
> > > down there?
> > > So the expanding foam, is the only logical answer. And the foam was
> > > created during the inflationary period of the universe, and the big
> > > suck makes it expand. It stays at plank length because it is all
> > > relative, expanding in unison.
> > > Equal pressure everywhere at that level between the bubbles.
> > > At least in terms of its outward direction.
> > > In terms of how it expands into the void. As the void must also be
> > > between the bubbles.
> > > uncompressible fluid except that you can compress it, with black hole
> > > energies, and even flatten some of those bubbles, creating a collapse
> > > of the foam in that region, and then the gigantic explosion ensues.
> > > So is it possible then, that the void is filled with that liquid, and
> > > the bubbles are merely expanding in that liquid?
> > > So that the void,  a perfect vacuum, is not in fact an empty space,
> > > but is a liquid.
> > > Then maybe outside of that, would be the real void.
> > > It must be because you cannot say that the void has space, it does not
> > > have even a micron of thickness on the outside of the universe because
> > > it is empty completely. A thin film of nothing. A self contained
> > > universe. A puddle.
>
> > No I guess you can't compress the fluid. You can only compress the
> > bubbles, squish them or flatten them.
>
> Well that doesn't work because if you cannot compress that fluid, you
> cannot expand that fluid. No big suck.
> And so what would make the bubbles expand?
> If there was only the liquid that formed the bubbles, if the liquid
> was all bubbles. All foam.
> Then the big suck would work.

I don't know. There is just not enough information yet.
Perfect elasticity. That is what Einstein called it.
With regards to Brownian motion.
The idea that something can bounce back, with the exact same amount of
energy and no energy is lost to the medium.
Like a pin ball machine, elastic bumper, that would not absorb any of
the force, but would return the exact amount of force to the  ball,
that it hit the elastic with.
You see the quantum foam is expanding, so is the fkuid expanding with
it and if not, the fluid will get thin and the foam will brust and it
would have happened by now, you would think.
So then, does it have perfect elasticity?
Or at least a great deal of elasticity so that eventually the foam
will burst.
The other option, is that it is expanding into Hilbert Space. And is
not really changing in size in this 3D space.
But then you can see how that would work with balloons, because
surrounding the balloons is the void, and they can expand into that
void and you would not see any change except eventually the skin would
get too thin and pop.
Seeds of entropy. If there were seeds of entropy would that not mean
there would have to be, a seed for every bubble?
If you take a liquid in a bell jar and flip the switch evacuate it,
poof you get foam. Inflationary period of the universe.
It is still expanding.
Well, we don't have all the answers yet.
What if, they were not bubbles, but like cells, and using a form of
cell division, the universe was expanding.
Well that would mean that the universe doubles in size ever time they
divide and so that can't be right.
We should put condensate through as many tests as we can, and liquid
helium, and see what we can find out about the properties of the foam,
and the energy emitted.
I think we have found the missing dark energy though. If the foam is
expanding, and emitting spherical waves, then thats a lot of
background radiation permeating the universe.