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Article #7379Re: Rest mass
From: rick_sobie
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:10
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:10
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On Jul 22, 3:01 am, rick_so...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > > No I guess you can't compress the fluid. You can only compress the > > > > bubbles, squish them or flatten them. > > > > Well that doesn't work because if you cannot compress that fluid, you > > > cannot expand that fluid. No big suck. > > > And so what would make the bubbles expand? > > > If there was only the liquid that formed the bubbles, if the liquid > > > was all bubbles. All foam. > > > Then the big suck would work. > > > I don't know. There is just not enough information yet. > > Perfect elasticity. That is what Einstein called it. > > With regards to Brownian motion. > > The idea that something can bounce back, with the exact same amount of > > energy and no energy is lost to the medium. > > Like a pin ball machine, elastic bumper, that would not absorb any of > > the force, but would return the exact amount of force to the ball, > > that it hit the elastic with. > > You see the quantum foam is expanding, so is the fkuid expanding with > > it and if not, the fluid will get thin and the foam will brust and it > > would have happened by now, you would think. > > So then, does it have perfect elasticity? > > Or at least a great deal of elasticity so that eventually the foam > > will burst. > > The other option, is that it is expanding into Hilbert Space. And is > > not really changing in size in this 3D space. > > But then you can see how that would work with balloons, because > > surrounding the balloons is the void, and they can expand into that > > void and you would not see any change except eventually the skin would > > get too thin and pop. > > Seeds of entropy. If there were seeds of entropy would that not mean > > there would have to be, a seed for every bubble? > > If you take a liquid in a bell jar and flip the switch evacuate it, > > poof you get foam. Inflationary period of the universe. > > It is still expanding. > > Well, we don't have all the answers yet. > > What if, they were not bubbles, but like cells, and using a form of > > cell division, the universe was expanding. > > Well that would mean that the universe doubles in size ever time they > > divide and so that can't be right. > > We should put condensate through as many tests as we can, and liquid > > helium, and see what we can find out about the properties of the foam, > > and the energy emitted. > > I think we have found the missing dark energy though. If the foam is > > expanding, and emitting spherical waves, then thats a lot of > > background radiation permeating the universe. > > Yes that would be zero point energy. "Well sand particles can act like a fluid" But then why don't we see large pieces of absolute space-time in solid blocks, where these irregular shaped sand bits have gathered together and locked up? How would a black hole ever explode if space-time in the center of a black hole was a solid block of sand particles? They aren't elastic.
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