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Article #7391Re: Rest mass
From: N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:19
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:19
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Dear BURT: "BURT" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1184731609.329012.42630@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 16, 6:10 pm, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" > <d...@aol.com> > wrote: >> Dear BURT: >> >> "BURT" <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1184620136.419350.260440@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> ... >> >> > Rest mass should be considered the fundamental >> > mass. But binding energy confuses this. >> >> It is a label. Do not spend a lot of time finding out how >> many >> nagels can dance on the head of that particular pin. >> >> > A proton or neutron outside the nucleus has more >> > mass than inside. A bound proton or neutron has >> > less mass. > >> No, the *system* has less mass. The individual >> components have not fundamentally changed. > > Define system. In this context, the nucleus which loses mass. Which obviously is gained by "the system" of the Universe. But the nucleons themselves are unaffected. Even an electron entering an orbital around a lone proton, forms a system and the system has less mass than the sum of both components. David A. Smith
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