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Article #7411Re: Rest mass
From: BURT
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:08
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:08
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On Jul 15, 10:40 pm, "Jeckyl" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote: > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1184396996.855175.254140@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > ------------ > > To your question whether the photon has mass > > > the answwer is Yes > > Wrong .. the answer is NO > > > it has mass a verylittl eone > > Very little meaning ZERO > > > 2 > > there is only jsy one kind of mass > > Although one can calculate other values that have units of mass and use the > word 'mass' in their name. > > But yes, what is usually regarded as mass is the invariant, or rest, mass > > > you can choose any name for it > > but jus tone knd of mass > > (if you think about 'relatiovistic mass' > > better forget about it > > Its not all that useful, but neither is it 'wrong' > > > and > > how come that the phton has mas > > and still movwes at c > > It doesn't have mass .. that is WHY it CAN move at c > > > ask Wormley he is a cleaver innovative sciensut > > alternatively youcan ask Gisse > > And they will agree that a photon has no mass and moves at c > > [snip insults] Rest mass should be considered the fundamental mass. But binding energy confuses this. A proton or neutron outside the nucleus has more mass than inside. A bound proton or neutron has less mass. So which mass is to be considered fundamental? the mass inside or outside? The mass of a bound nucleon or a free one? Burt Schwarzkauf Mitch Raemsch
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