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Article #7426Re: Fatal error in Lorentz Ether Theory
From: HW Wilson
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:15
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:15
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:51:03 GMT, "MathMagician" <Math@Magic.co.uk> wrote: > ><rotchm@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1169478732.985047.109090@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>> However, the basic reasoning exemplified in the above quoted text >>> implies instead of contraction of moving objects the exact contrary: >>> contraction of the rigid ether with respect to moving objects. In >>> LET (inasfar as it is not "a clever restatement" of SR), contraction >>> results from the motion through the ether [3], so contraction of the >>> ether with respect to moving objects is impossible. >> >> Correct. Your quoted example is wrong. It should be the other way. >> >>>Since he is moving at speed v, the length of the object is v*dt, where >>>dt is the time it takes him to traverse the length of the object - but >>>which "dt" will he use? Naturally if he bases his length estimate on >>> the measure of the time interval recorded on a ground clock, he will >>>have dt = L/v, so he will judge the object to be v*(L/v) = L >> >> That is totally wrong as you noted. The author of that claim has either >> screwed up or >> is.... <cough, cough>. >> >> LET and SR perdict that a measurement of the lenght of the object will >> be v*dt where dt is the measured time (clock) and v the measured speed. >> The v*dt will yield L/gamma in both theories. > >Who cares?, they are both ridiculous. > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/mmx4dummies.htm That is not a good demo. In the MMX, the observer is always at rest wrt the apparatus. ....and you have proved again that you are a closet aetherist...
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