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Article #7428Re: Fatal error in Lorentz Ether Theory
From: Dumbledore_
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:15
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:15
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"Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message news:ho0rr2pg16khti8c2ahfoubmhlob1u3h9f@4ax.com... > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:51:03 GMT, "MathMagician" <Math@Magic.co.uk> wrote: > >> >><rotchm@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1169478732.985047.109090@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>>> However, the basic reasoning exemplified in the above quoted text >>>> implies instead of contraction of moving objects the exact contrary: >>>> contraction of the rigid ether with respect to moving objects. In >>>> LET (inasfar as it is not "a clever restatement" of SR), contraction >>>> results from the motion through the ether [3], so contraction of the >>>> ether with respect to moving objects is impossible. >>> >>> Correct. Your quoted example is wrong. It should be the other way. >>> >>>>Since he is moving at speed v, the length of the object is v*dt, where >>>>dt is the time it takes him to traverse the length of the object - but >>>>which "dt" will he use? Naturally if he bases his length estimate on >>>> the measure of the time interval recorded on a ground clock, he will >>>>have dt = L/v, so he will judge the object to be v*(L/v) = L >>> >>> That is totally wrong as you noted. The author of that claim has either >>> screwed up or >>> is.... <cough, cough>. >>> >>> LET and SR perdict that a measurement of the lenght of the object will >>> be v*dt where dt is the measured time (clock) and v the measured speed. >>> The v*dt will yield L/gamma in both theories. >> >>Who cares?, they are both ridiculous. >> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/mmx4dummies.htm > > That is not a good demo. It's better than any you've made. > > In the MMX, the observer is always at rest wrt the apparatus. Yeah, so ? "To the "stationary" observer on the left the yellow path of the "tip of the ray" as Einstein calls it (which he/she never observes) " Can't you fucking read, dumbfuck jealous ozzie? > ....and you have proved again that you are a closet aetherist... > > >
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