Article View: sci.physics.relativity
Article #7436Re: Fatal error in Lorentz Ether Theory
From: rotchm
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:12
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:12
22 lines
2502 bytes
2502 bytes
> However, the basic reasoning exemplified in the above quoted text > implies instead of contraction of moving objects the exact contrary: > contraction of the rigid ether with respect to moving objects. In > LET (inasfar as it is not "a clever restatement" of SR), contraction > results from the motion through the ether [3], so contraction of the > ether with respect to moving objects is impossible. Correct. Your quoted example is wrong. It should be the other way. >Since he is moving at speed v, the length of the object is v*dt, where >dt is the time it takes him to traverse the length of the object - but >which "dt" will he use? Naturally if he bases his length estimate on > the measure of the time interval recorded on a ground clock, he will >have dt = L/v, so he will judge the object to be v*(L/v) = L That is totally wrong as you noted. The author of that claim has either screwed up or is.... <cough, cough>. LET and SR perdict that a measurement of the lenght of the object will be v*dt where dt is the measured time (clock) and v the measured speed. The v*dt will yield L/gamma in both theories.
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<1169478732.985047.109090@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mailReferences:
<ep2hvi$qli$1@atlas.ip-plus.net>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 10f545,34815da0ea0ecade X-Google-Thread: 104cdc,34815da0ea0ecade X-Google-Thread: 103d8c,34815da0ea0ecade X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,34815da0ea0ecade X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gid104cdc,gid103d8c,gidfa4c1,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "rotchm@gmail.com" <rotchm@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.philosophy.tech,de.sci.physik,fr.sci.physique Subject: Re: Fatal error in Lorentz Ether Theory Date: 22 Jan 2007 07:12:13 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 23 Message-ID: <1169478732.985047.109090@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <ep2hvi$qli$1@atlas.ip-plus.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.48.127.143 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1169478740 18125 127.0.0.1 (22 Jan 2007 15:12:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:12:20 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <ep2hvi$qli$1@atlas.ip-plus.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Maxthon),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.48.127.143; posting-account=KWXQPA0AAAAiJ1TPtltCFRlYWyiX75wy