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Article #7438Re: Fatal error in Lorentz Ether Theory
From: MathMagician
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:51
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:51
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<rotchm@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1169478732.985047.109090@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> However, the basic reasoning exemplified in the above quoted text >> implies instead of contraction of moving objects the exact contrary: >> contraction of the rigid ether with respect to moving objects. In >> LET (inasfar as it is not "a clever restatement" of SR), contraction >> results from the motion through the ether [3], so contraction of the >> ether with respect to moving objects is impossible. > > Correct. Your quoted example is wrong. It should be the other way. > >>Since he is moving at speed v, the length of the object is v*dt, where >>dt is the time it takes him to traverse the length of the object - but >>which "dt" will he use? Naturally if he bases his length estimate on >> the measure of the time interval recorded on a ground clock, he will >>have dt = L/v, so he will judge the object to be v*(L/v) = L > > That is totally wrong as you noted. The author of that claim has either > screwed up or > is.... <cough, cough>. > > LET and SR perdict that a measurement of the lenght of the object will > be v*dt where dt is the measured time (clock) and v the measured speed. > The v*dt will yield L/gamma in both theories. Who cares?, they are both ridiculous. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/mmx4dummies.htm
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