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Re: The Simplest Refutation of Special Relativity

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From: Sam Wormley
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:53
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Wolfgang G. Gasser wrote:
> Two distant observers with each a (transversal) LIGHT CLOCK orbit at a
> constant distance around their common center (assumed at rest).
> 
> Special relativity postulates that the light beams in both light clocks
> propagate at c relative to both (almost inertially moving) observers.
> 
> This requires that for each observer the clock rate of the opposite clock
> CAN be lower than the clock rate of his own clock.
> 
> Because of symmetry and unchanging distance, clock rate CANNOT differ.
> 
> The impossibility of mutual time dilation in this situation entails the
> impossibility of a constant speed of light as a general law.
> 
> 

   IF you change the problem to two distant observers with constant
   velocity with respect to each other, special relativity applies
   and each will measure time dilation of the other's clock with
   respect to his own.

   Symmetry -- each other's time dilation measurements will have
   equal magnitude.

   Your concept of "mutual time dilation" makes no sense. You are
   either with one observer or the other, not both.
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