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Article #7532Re: The Simplest Refutation of Special Relativity
From: Hero.van.Jindelt
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:27
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:27
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Sam Wormley schrieb: > Wolfgang G. Gasser wrote: > > Two distant observers with each a (transversal) LIGHT CLOCK orbit at a > > constant distance around their common center (assumed at rest). > > > > Special relativity postulates that the light beams in both light clocks > > propagate at c relative to both (almost inertially moving) observers. > > > > This requires that for each observer the clock rate of the opposite clock > > CAN be lower than the clock rate of his own clock. > > > > Because of symmetry and unchanging distance, clock rate CANNOT differ. > > > > The impossibility of mutual time dilation in this situation entails the > > impossibility of a constant speed of light as a general law. > > > > > > IF you change the problem to two distant observers with constant > velocity with respect to each other, special relativity applies > and each will measure time dilation of the other's clock with > respect to his own. > > Symmetry -- each other's time dilation measurements will have > equal magnitude. > > Your concept of "mutual time dilation" makes no sense. You are > either with one observer or the other, not both. Or You are at rest in the middle, their common center, not rotating as observed with a gyro. Or You move with the wavefront of the light of one the two, when he switches his light on. Or, or, or.... With friendly greetings Hero
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