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Re: The Simplest Refutation of Special Relativity

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From: Sorcerer
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:43
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"Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message news:rvflp2ltoun34hcs762k0k596o7b5bu77h@4ax.com...
| On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:01:13 GMT, Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
| wrote:
| 
| >Wolfgang G. Gasser wrote:
| >> Two distant observers with each a (transversal) LIGHT CLOCK orbit at a
| >> constant distance around their common center (assumed at rest).
| >> 
| >> Special relativity postulates that the light beams in both light clocks
| >> propagate at c relative to both (almost inertially moving) observers.
| >
| >That is the key point -- these observers are NOT moving inertially. The 
| >approximation is important (see below), and negates your claims.
| >
| >
| >> This requires that for each observer the clock rate of the opposite clock
| >> CAN be lower than the clock rate of his own clock.
| >> Because of symmetry and unchanging distance, clock rate CANNOT differ.
| >
| >The error is in your gedanken, not in SR itself.
| >
| >For approximately inertial motion, the basic equations of SR are only 
| >APPROXIMATELY valid. You ignored the approximation you, yourself, made.
| >
| >At a deeper level, however, such orbiting observers cannot be treated as 
| >inertial observers, because a circle is different topologically from a 
| >line. In SR's Minkowski spacetime, inertial observers move in straight 
| >lines, not in circles, and the basic equations of SR are valid for 
| >inertial observers and coordinates. Yes, for a very large radius a 
| >circle is approximately a straight line for a small portion of its 
| >circumference, but if one uses the fact it is a circle in any way, or 
| >uses a large fraction of the circumference, then these are not inertial 
| >observers, not even approximately.
| 
| So the GPS clocks that you claim prove SR correct move in straight lines do
| they Snipper?
| 
| ....You become more of a comedian with every post...

He's like Dork Van de psychopath, fired from his job and 
makes it up as he goes along. 

"The basic equations of SR are only APPROXIMATELY valid" 
whereas the basic equations of Newtonian Mechanics are exactly valid. 
The only basic difference is gamma = 1.
Snipshit Roberts is obviously off his fuckin' rocker ... he must
be a physicist.
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