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Article #759Re: CLIMATE-GATE, RELATIVITY-GATE, ENTROPY-GATE
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:10
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:10
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On 12 fév, 09:57, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > The essence of COSMOLOGY-GATE: > > http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/wiggles-on-the-dark-side-... > "The wavelength of light from a galaxy that is accelerating away from > our Milky Way is "stretched" so the light is seen as "shifted" towards > the red part of the spectrum." > > The above fraud is a relatively new version of a classical fraud > designed to camouflage the falsehood of Einstein's 1905 light > postulate: in order for the speed of light to appear constant, the > wavelength should change in an idiotic way (it is granted that the > scientific community invariably sings "Divine Einstein" and "Yes we > all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity"): > > http://sampit.geol.sc.edu/Doppler.html > "Moving observer: A man is standing on the beach, watching the tide. > The waves are washing into the shore and over his feet with a constant > frequency and wavelength. However, if he begins walking out into the > ocean, the waves will begin hitting him more frequently, leading him > to perceive that the wavelength of the waves has decreased. Again, > this phenomenon is due to the fact that the source and the observer > are not the in the same frame of reference. Although the wavelength > appears to have decreased to the man, the wavelength would appear > constant to a jellyfish floating along with the tide." > > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/big_bang/ind... > John Norton: "Here's a light wave and an observer. If the observer > were to hurry towards the source of the light, the observer would now > pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That would > mean that moving observer would find the frequency of the light to > have increased (AND CORRESPONDINGLY FOR THE WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE > BETWEEN CRESTS - TO HAVE DECREASED)." > > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > COSMOLOGY-GATE: > > http://www.physorg.com/news179508040.html > "More than a dozen ground-based Dark Energy projects are proposed or > under way, and at least four space-based missions, each of the order > of a BILLION DOLLARS, are at the design concept stage." > > http://cosmologystatement.org/ > An Open Letter to the Scientific Community > (Published in New Scientist, May 22, 2004) > "The big bang today relies on a growing number of hypothetical > entities, things that we have never observed-- inflation, dark matter > and dark energy are the most prominent examples. Without them, there > would be a fatal contradiction between the observations made by > astronomers and the predictions of the big bang theory. In no other > field of physics would this continual recourse to new hypothetical > objects be accepted as a way of bridging the gap between theory and > observation. It would, at the least, raise serious questions about the > validity of the underlying theory." > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/6057362/Give-scientists-the-freedo... > Martin Rees: "Over the past week, two stories in the press have > suggested that scientists have been very wrong about some very big > issues. First, a new paper seemed to suggest that dark energy the > mysterious force that makes up three quarters of the universe, and is > pushing the galaxies further apart might not even exist." > > http://www.springerlink.com/content/w6777w07xn737590/fulltext.pdf > Misconceptions about the Hubble recession law > Wilfred H. Sorrell, Astrophys Space Sci > "Reber (1982) pointed out that Hubble himself was never an advocate > for the expanding universe idea. Indeed, it was Hubble who personally > thought that a model universe based on the tired-light hypothesis is > more simple and less irrational than a model universe based on an > expanding spacetime geometry (...) ...any photon gradually loses its > energy while traveling over a large distance in the vast space of the > universe." > > http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,757145,00.html > "Other causes for the redshift were suggested, such as cosmic dust or > a change in the nature of light over great stretches of space. Two > years ago Dr. Hubble admitted that the expanding universe might be an > illusion, but implied that this was a cautious and colorless view. > Last week it was apparent that he had shifted his position even > further away from a literal interpretation of the redshift, that he > now regards the expanding universe as more improbable than a non- > expanding one." > > http://www.sciscoop.com/story/2008/10/30/41323/484 > "Does the apparently constant speed of light change over the vast > stretches of the universe? Would our understanding of black holes, > ancient supernovae, dark matter, dark energy, the origins of the > universe and its ultimate fate be different if the speed of light were > not constant?.....Couldn't it be that the supposed vacuum of space is > acting as an interstellar medium to lower the speed of light like some > cosmic swimming pool? If so, wouldn't a stick plunged into the pool > appear bent as the light is refracted and won't that affect all our > observations about the universe. I asked theoretical physicist Leonard > Susskind, author of The Black Hole War, recently reviewed in Science > Books to explain this apparent anomaly....."You are entirely right," > he told me, "there are all sorts of effects on the propagation of > light that astronomers and astrophysicists must account for. The point > of course is that they (not me) do take these effects into account and > correct for them." "In a way this work is very heroic but unheralded," > adds Susskind, "An immense amount of extremely brilliant analysis has > gone into the detailed corrections that are needed to eliminate these > 'spurious' effects so that people like me can just say 'light travels > with the speed of light.' So, there you have it. My concern about > cosmic swimming pools and bent sticks does indeed apply, but > physicists have taken the deviations into account so that other > physicists, such as Susskind, who once proved Stephen Hawking wrong, > can battle their way to a better understanding of the universe." > > http://www.amazon.fr/bang-nest-th%C3%A9orie-comme-autres/dp/2360120026 > "Le big bang n'est pas une théorie comme les autres. Ce n'est > d'ailleurs pas une théorie physique au sens propre du terme, mais un > scénario cosmologique issu des équations de la relativité générale. Il > est le modèle qui s'ajuste le mieux aux observations actuelles, mais à > quel prix ? Il nous livre un Univers composé à 96 % de matière et > d'énergie noires inconnues. C'est donc un euphémisme que de dire que > le big bang semble poser autant - sinon plus - de questions qu'il n'en > résout. En ce sens, le big bang apparaît davantage comme une > paramétrisation de notre ignorance plutôt que comme une modélisation > d'un phénomène. Pourtant, le succès du big bang et l'adhésion qu'il > suscite, tant dans la sphère scientifique que dans la sphère > médiatique, ne se démentent pas. Surmédiatisé, son statut dépasse > celui de modèle théorique, et la simple évocation de son nom suffit > pour justifier des opérations de marketing scientifique ou rejeter des > cosmologies alternatives. Pour éclaircir les problématiques - > scientifiques, médiatiques, économiques ou politiques - liées à la > cosmologie d'aujourd'hui, il est nécessaire de multiplier les angles > de vue et de distinguer, selon leur registre, les différents enjeux. > C'est le but que se sont fixés les auteurs de cet ouvrage. Pour chaque > point soulevé, leurs regards croisés contribuent à favoriser > l'émergence citoyenne d'un esprit éclairé et critique." > > http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/bauer1.1.1.html > Suppression of Science Within Science > by Henry Bauer > "I wasn't as surprised as many others were, when it was revealed that > climate-change "researchers" had discussed in private e-mails how to > keep important data from public view lest it shake public belief in > the dogma that human activities are contributing significantly to > global warming. (...) Take cosmology and the Big-Bang theory of the > origin of the universe. Halton Arp was a respected, senior American > observational astronomer. He noticed that some pairs of quasars that > are physically close together nevertheless have very different > redshifts. How exciting! Evidently some redshifts are not Doppler > effects, in other words, not owing to rapid relative motion away from > us. That means the universe-expansion calculations have to be revised. > It may not have started as a Big Bang! That's just the sort of major > potential discovery that scientists are always hoping for, isn't it? > Certainly not in this case. Arp was granted no more telescope time to > continue his observations. At age 56, Halton Arp emigrated to Germany > to continue his work at the Max Planck Institute for Astrophysics. But > Arp was not alone in his views. Thirty-four senior astronomers from 10 > countries, including such stellar figures as Hermann Bondi, Thomas > Gold, Amitabha Ghosh, and Jayant Narlikar, sent a letter to Nature > pointing out that Big Bang theory: > *relies on a growing number of hypothetical . . . things . . . never > observed; > *that alternative theories can also explain all the basic phenomena of > the cosmos > *and yet virtually all financial and experimental resources in > cosmology go to Big-Bang studies. > Just the sort of discussion that goes on in science all the time, > arguing pros and cons of competing ideas. Except that Nature refused > to publish the letter. It was posted on the Internet, and by now > hundreds of additional signatures have been added... (...) Then > there's that most abstract of fundamental sciences, theoretical > physics. The problem has long been, How to unify relativity and > quantum mechanics? Quantum mechanics regards the world as made up of > discrete bits whereas relativity regards the world as governed by > continuous, not discrete, fields. Since the mid-1970s, there has been > no real progress. Everyone has been working on so-called "string > theory," which has delivered no testable conclusions and remains a > hope, a speculation, not a real theory. Nevertheless, theoretical > physicists who want to look at other approaches can't find jobs, can't > get ... > > plus de détails » Le chiote gate... Y.B.
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