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In article <87m3mm$9tm$1@newsgw8.odn.ne.jp>,
  "John Sawdon" <aam23180@nyc.odn.ne.jp> wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> Forgive me for being a pedant,

N if you'd've been a pendant
you'd have found forgiveness on the spot.
Who knows, we might've even gotten engaged
(provided its was an expensiv enough pendant).

> but what do you expect, this is
> philosophy
> after all. I quote:
>
> >Actually I've concocted no theories: All I have done is
> >interpreted some observed facts.
>
> If your claims are not theory what are they doing in a philosophy news
> group?

My claims are facts, not theories! What... facts not good enough
for you now? They have to be theories?

(But notice that your "comments or objections" are not theories
either. Yet here they are in a philosophy newsgroup (first
explain yourself, and then ask explanations of the world).

> Well you may not have concocted theories but the 'facts' you 'observe'
> need
> still to be within some theoretical construct to have meaning,

I agree, now that I've shown a number of people my shoes,
told them they were shoes, and I'm still being asked, "What
are those shoes?" You may be right that there are people
who wouldn't know shoes from wearing them!

> without
> any
> frame of reference they are meaningless gobbledygook.

You know, I once wrote a poem in the same vein. Here't is:

                  Opus CCCXXV

I've lost a Frame: Stolen! and There remains

             the musics of falling rains
    babbling & murmuring & whispering soft
  --on The Most Anguished (distance) lost:

--It was a most wonderful Frame, all gold & black,
        hanging from a well-hammered iron tack

     against The Wall which you can see now
           is so stark & wry &

                                     --Somehow
 THE THING remains (which once The Frame
           framed gracefully):

                          Nice ... But, all the same,
      I would just as rather that whoever took
           my lovely Frame off from its hook

      should've also taken That Awful HAUL
   that's still there hanging on the--empty--Wall:

    It WAS such graceful, nice & costly a Frame

    which gave That Stark THING There its Aim!

> So I would
> suggest
> that you are theorising, and going beyond present theory, (or else
> whats the
> rumpuss?)

The "missionary" position? It's been so long
since I was in Hawaii... they might've changed the position.

>so you are possibly constructing new theory .

It's not the "missionary" position then?

> Of course I
> can't
> possibly say as I don't know my arse from my elbow, if you'll forgive
> my
> colourful use of language, where astro phsysics is concerned.

I went out with a girl who was just such a klutz, but
it was worth the tinkertoy sex (even for the sheer novelty of it).

> I'm interested and not at all put out by your pomposity, in fact I
> admire
> it.

Sir, we are in perfect agreement! Let's go out to
Toys-R-Us and see if they've improved TinkerToys
the past 40 or 50 years! (Do you have your own pump
or would you like to borrow mine?)

S D Rodrian
sdr@t-three.com
http://members.aol.com/prebigbang






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