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Article #7763Re: Science and Philosophy: what is the difference?
From: Harry
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:33
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:33
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reany@asu.edu (Patrick Reany) wrote in message news:<844a1b64.0311120733.3ce18ab2@posting.google.com>... > "Dio" <dadaismo@tin.it> wrote in message news:<psasb.6842$9_.282814@news1.tin.it>... > > Science and philosophy (or epistemology) have been very important for our > > knowledge. > > But nowadays what is the main difference between science and philosophy? > > > > What do you think about? > > > > Thank you everybody > > > > Bye bye > > Franco > > There's more to philosophy than epistemology. Anyway, science is one > possible empirical arm of philosophy. Newton referred to science as > "experimental philosophy." > > See RULE IV in > > http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/newton-princ.html > > Natural philosophy is a sort of ontological foundation upon which one > can build science and theories in particular. It contains assumptions > about the eistence of things and "rules of operation of Nature," so to > speak. That ontology that is generally accepted is "convention" (which > includes the existence of the ordinary visible realm). All the rest > are just formal theoretical models. Setting up science is not a > scientific activity; it is a philosophic activity. > > Just for your information, the modern physicist is not like his or her > predecessors of pre-WWII era physicists (such as Mach, Einstein, Bohr, > and Heisenberg) concerning philosophy and epistemology, who studied > and appreciated those subjects, and often quoted and referenced > philosophers. But today's physicist is more likely than not to scorn > both philosophy and philosophers with unrelenting invective. > > Patrick Right! Thanks Patrick for this energetic reply. It was only after many years that I realised that Science is a branch of Philosophy. I have just a slight difference in point of view about labels - without changing the essence of your comments: I would say (and this is generally held) that Physics is Natural Philosophy. (Rules I-IV) Rule IV correponds to Experimental Physics. Harald
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f579b,1ebfdccb2dd8124d X-Google-Attributes: gidf579b,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,1ebfdccb2dd8124d X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 10a86d,1ebfdccb2dd8124d X-Google-Attributes: gid10a86d,public X-Google-Thread: 10f545,1ebfdccb2dd8124d X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-12 13:33:30 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch (Harry) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.philosophy.debate,it.scienza Subject: Re: Science and Philosophy: what is the difference? Date: 12 Nov 2003 13:33:30 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 50 Message-ID: <3bff5641.0311121333.572e2ae1@posting.google.com> References: <psasb.6842$9_.282814@news1.tin.it> <844a1b64.0311120733.3ce18ab2@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.230.150.127 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1068672810 5263 127.0.0.1 (12 Nov 2003 21:33:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:33:30 +0000 (UTC)