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Re: Relativity and QM

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From: Dio
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:14
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island <3FAE9A6C.1570606C@sundial.net>...

>
>>  but we can change our -expectations-. There is no
>> fundamental reason why
>
>
>Yes there is.  It's called continuity, which is probalby the most
>fundamental and powerful theory in existence.  For without it, no other
>theory would be worth jack.  It's the reason that Einstein hated the
>Copenhagen interpretation so much that he said... "god doesn't throw
>dice"... or whatever.
>

I don't think so. Let me show you what is the present.

A. Electricity
B. Magnetism
C. Light

1. A, B, C = Electromagnetism.

D. Beta decay
E. Neutrino interactions

2. D, E = Weak interactions

3. 1, 2 = Electroweak interactions

F. Protons
G. Neutrons
H. Pions

4. F, G, H = Strong interactions

Strong interactions and electroweak interactions = Standard Model.


Terrestial gravity and Celestial mechanics = Universal gravitation

Universal gravitation and Spacetime geometry = General relativity.

Standard Model and General relativity = ???


In other way:

  A. Quantum mechanics: wave-particle duality, superposition, probabilities.

B. Special relativity: spacetime geometry, relativity of motion

1. Quantum mechanics and Special relativity = Quantum field theory.

Quantum field theory: virtual particles, renormalization.

C. Newtonian mechanics: universal gravitation, force and acceleration


2. Newtonian mechanics and Special relativity = General relativity:
equivalence principle, dynamic spacetime.


Quantum field theory and General relativity=??????

I think that a unified theory of all forces will probably require radically
new ideas.

Thank you

bye bye
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