🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: sci.physics.relativity
Article #836

Re: TOTALITARIAN SCIENCE (POSTSCIENTISM)

#836
From: GSS
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:59
117 lines
7521 bytes
On Jan 6, 1:01 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://exilestreet.com/?p=1337
> "In the most notorious trial in the history of science, the
> Inquisition condemned Galileo in 1633. The aged scientist was forced
> to recant his life’s work. The fact that the earth revolves around the
> sun threatened the church establishment's doctrine. Galileo was worse
> than right - he was inconvenient. Since his trial, scientists have
> mythologized him as their secular saint. How times have changed: With
> the Climategate scandal, we now find scientists in the role of
> inquisitors - suppressing inconvenient facts and persecuting
> researchers who challenge the doctrine decreed by the Global Warming
> clergy."
>
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/bauer1.1.1.html
> "You begin to wonder, don't you, how many other cases there could be
> in science, where a single theory has somehow captured all the
> resources? And where competent scientists who want to try something
> different are not only blocked but personally insulted?"
>
> http://www.suppressedscience.net/physics.html
> "Science is in a state of crisis. Where free inquiry, natural
> curiosity and open-minded discussion and consideration of new ideas
> should reign, a new orthodoxy has emerged. This 'new inquisition', as
> it has been called by Robert Anton Wilson (2) consists not of
> cardinals and popes, but of the editors and reviewers of scientific
> journals, of leading authorities and self-appointed "skeptics", and
> last but not least of corporations and governments that have a vested
> interest in preserving the status quo, and it is just as effective in
> suppressing unorthodox ideas as the original."
>
> http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a909857880
> Peter Hayes "The Ideology of Relativity: The Case of the Clock
> Paradox" : Social Epistemology, Volume 23, Issue 1 January 2009, pages
> 57-78
> "The gatekeepers of professional physics in the universities and
> research institutes are disinclined to support or employ anyone who
> raises problems over the elementary inconsistencies of relativity. A
> winnowing out process has made it very difficult for critics of
> Einstein to achieve or maintain professional status. Relativists are
> then able to use the argument of authority to discredit these critics.
> Were relativists to admit that Einstein may have made a series of
> elementary logical errors, they would be faced with the embarrassing
> question of why this had not been noticed earlier. Under these
> circumstances the marginalisation of antirelativists, unjustified on
> scientific grounds, is eminently justifiable on grounds of
> realpolitik. Supporters of relativity theory have protected both the
> theory and their own reputations by shutting their opponents out of
> professional discourse."
>
> http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/hutchison/080616
> "Like bronze idols that are hollow inside, Einstein built a cluster of
> "Potemkin villages," which are false fronts with nothing behind them.
> Grigori Potemkin (17391791) was a general-field marshal, Russian
> statesman, and favorite of Empress Catherine the Great. He is alleged
> to have built facades of non-existent villages along desolate
> stretches of the Dnieper River to impress Catherine as she sailed to
> the Crimea in 1787. Actors posing as happy peasants stood in front of
> these pretty stage sets and waved to the pleased Empress. This
> incident reminds me of the story of Eleanor Roosevelt's Moscow tour
> guide who showed her the living quarters of communist party bosses and
> claimed that these were the apartments of the average Russian worker.
> The incredibly gullible first lady was delighted. Like Catherine, the
> sentimental Eleanor was prone to wishful thinking and was easily
> deceived.  What has all this to do with Einstein? The science
> establishment has a powerful romantic desire to believe in Einstein.
> Therefore, they are not only fooled by Einstein's tricks, they are
> prepared to defend his Potemkin villages."
>
> http://web.mit.edu/keenansymposium/overview/background/index.html
> Arthur Eddington: "The law that entropy always increases, holds, I
> think, the supreme position among the laws of Nature. If someone
> points out to you that your pet theory of the universe is in
> disagreement with Maxwell's equations - then so much the worse for
> Maxwell's equations. If it is found to be contradicted by observation
> - well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes. But if your
> theory is found to be against the second law of thermodynamics, I can
> give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to collapse in deepest
> humiliation."
>
> Beautiful totalitarian science for sale:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
>
> http://orangecow.org/pythonet/pet-shop.html
>
> Owner: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Blue...What's,uh...What's wrong
> with it?
> Mr. Praline: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead,
> that's what's wrong with it!
> Owner: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
> Mr. Praline: Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm
> looking at one right now.
> Owner: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the
> Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
> ........................
> Mr. Praline: No, I'm sorry! I'm not prepared to pursue my line of
> inquiry any longer as I think this is getting too silly!
>
> Note the desperate state Mr. Praline is eventually in: when things get
> too silly fighters for truth get paralized and lies and absurdities
> rule forever.
>
> Pentcho Valev
> pva...@yahoo.com

Excellent description of the current situation!

I admire your patience and perseverance Pentcho.

"It is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect
and expose delusion and error. But nature has not given to everyone a
talent for the purpose; and among those to whom such a talent has been
given there is often a want of disposition or of courage to do it."
—Thomas Paine

GSS
http://book.fundamentalphysics.info
Technical Details
Message-ID: <347751bc-c90b-41bb-8f3b-b1309c6ae9e4@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
References: <4bb611bb-c54e-4b1f-8eed-11204287f78c@s3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 237b8ad48,703fb6d6a299778a
X-Google-Attributes: gid237b8ad48,public,usenet
X-Google-NewGroupId: yes
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,CP1252
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: GSS <gurcharn_sandhu@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Subject: Re: TOTALITARIAN SCIENCE (POSTSCIENTISM)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 07:59:00 -0800 (PST)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 117
Message-ID: <347751bc-c90b-41bb-8f3b-b1309c6ae9e4@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
References: <4bb611bb-c54e-4b1f-8eed-11204287f78c@s3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 122.173.3.32
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1262793540 9004 127.0.0.1 (6 Jan 2010 15:59:00 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:59:00 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com; posting-host=122.173.3.32; 
 posting-account=2APXugoAAADkRMUHSY1XvGUVMY2N3xOK
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) 
 Gecko/20091215 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Firefox/3.5.6,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)