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Article #876Re: How does the Light Move?
From: eric gisse
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:59
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:59
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kenseto wrote: > On Dec 20, 9:35 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> Henry Wilson DSc wrote: >> > On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:52:46 -0600, Tom Roberts >> > <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >> There are numerous measurements of the >> >> speed of light emitted by moving sources, and they all obtain c within >> >> their resolutions. Modeling the speed of light emitted by a source >> >> moving with speed v as c+kv, experimental measurements require >> >> k<2*10^-9, SOLIDLY refuting emission theories such as Newton's: >> >>http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html#... >> >> > Such lab experiments have alternative explanations. >> >> To date, nobody has presented a coherent and self-consistent theory that >> explains ALL of the experiments within the domain of SR, other than SR >> itself and theories equivalent to it [#]. Certainly YOU have not done so. >> >> [#] In the sense that they are experimentally indistinguishable >> from SR. > > I disagree. IRT is a complete theory of motion. IRT includes SRT as a > subset. However, unlike SRT the equations of IRT are valid in all > environments, including gravity. What this mean is that IRT is a self- > consistent theory that explains ALL of the experiments within the > domain of SR and more. IRT is described in the following link: > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf Since you can't derive the equations you use from your postulates, IRT is no more a theory than Ralph's spew is a 'theory'. > > Ken Seto > >> >> > The only real test of the emission theory is [...] >> >> ... not NEARLY sufficient. For emission theory to be accepted, there are >> HUNDREDS of experiments which must be addressed, not just one. >> >> Tom Roberts
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